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Old 11-08-2013, 12:28 AM  
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Nomination is Christie's to lose?

I'm having a hard time seeing how Chris Christie doesn't walk away with thing at this point, and I can't decide if that's a good thing or a bad thing. There's plenty to like about him, though I don't know too much about his foreign policy.

At this point, I don't think Rand can knock him off. I don't think Cruz can knock him off. It's hard to believe Perry could given how terribly he fared the last time around.

There's a lot to happen between then and now - but that's kind of the point. Christie is going to be travelling the country campaigning for governors and raising a ton of cash. And to boot, he's winning a lot of democrats over - he'd have to to win as large as he has in Jersey. He's winning blue dogs over with tough love. He's basically selling conservative ideas minus the Jesus, and what we're seeing is that there's a huge base of democrats that eat it up like Alpo.

Christie is a real problem for the Democrats because if they're running Hillary, they're running her as a leftist version of Christie, and he's going to suck all of the air out of that conversation.

It's hard to imagine right now who is going to beat this juggernaut. I don't think Christie needs either Christian conservatives or libertarians to win. I think he'll pull enough out of the Democrat column to manage just fine.
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Old 11-08-2013, 07:48 AM   #16
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I've noticed most people here in DC don't seem to like him. He's got my vote
Another good reason to like him. Heh.
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Old 11-08-2013, 07:56 AM   #17
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Another good reason to like him. Heh.
He wants to ban abortion. Make unions voluntary. Against gay marriage and employment protection from firing for being gay.Thinks we should deregulate Big Banks more. They have learned their lesson. Check his record. Only because the Tea Party has lurched to the extreme right does he seem reasonable. But, just because the goal post moved in the Republican party, doesnt mean the goal post moved in the voting electorate.
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Old 11-08-2013, 08:05 AM   #18
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He wants to ban abortion. Make unions voluntary. Against gay marriage and employment protection from firing for being gay.Thinks we should deregulate Big Banks more. They have learned their lesson. Check his record. Only because the Tea Party has lurched to the extreme right does he seem reasonable. But, just because the goal post moved in the Republican party, doesnt mean the goal post moved in the voting electorate.
Eh...guess I'll wait to I hear from him. If Hillary is the option though, he could be appealing for some of us. His no-nonsense, cut-the-bullshit, what-you-see-is-what-you-get persona is a breath of fresh air.
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Old 11-08-2013, 08:10 AM   #19
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Eh...guess I'll wait to I hear from him. If Hillary is the option though, he could be appealing for some of us. His no-nonsense, cut-the-bullshit, what-you-see-is-what-you-get persona is a breath of fresh air.
Exactly. I think people are so fed up with the typical bullshit, that they are willing to look past a few issues in exchange for the leadership. Which is something that has been lacking for quite some time. People are sick of the divisive nature of politics and this guy seems like a uniter of reasonable people.
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Christie is a good sound bite politician however I don't think he's a viable national candidate. He will put his foot in his mouth several times on a national stage. I know conservatives are eating up his demeanor right now but I don't think that transfers to a national audience.

That being said, he's the only republican that has a legitimate shot to win that's in the discussion right now.
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He wants to ban abortion. Make unions voluntary. Against gay marriage and employment protection from firing for being gay.Thinks we should deregulate Big Banks more. They have learned their lesson. Check his record. Only because the Tea Party has lurched to the extreme right does he seem reasonable. But, just because the goal post moved in the Republican party, doesnt mean the goal post moved in the voting electorate.
Yup, not a viable national candidate.
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Old 11-08-2013, 08:39 AM   #23
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Christie is a good sound bite politician however I don't think he's a viable national candidate. He will put his foot in his mouth several times on a national stage. I know conservatives are eating up his demeanor right now but I don't think that transfers to a national audience.

That being said, he's the only republican that has a legitimate shot to win that's in the discussion right now.
If the Dems trott out Hillary....he and even a number of tea bagger favs instantly become viable--if for no other reason, than...they ain't Hillary.
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Old 11-08-2013, 08:39 AM   #24
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Eh...guess I'll wait to I hear from him. If Hillary is the option though, he could be appealing for some of us. His no-nonsense, cut-the-bullshit, what-you-see-is-what-you-get persona is a breath of fresh air.
Wolf in sheeps clothing. Just because he tells it like it is doesn't mean what he is saying is right for the country.

At this point in the election the Democrats have nominated one front runner since the Adalei stevenson, Humphries era.

Recent history.......All of these were give little chance at the nomination

Jimmy Carter....a peanut farmer?
Mondale.........minnesota liberal agaisnt Reagan?
Dukasis......Boston liberal against Reagan?
Clinton......from Arkansas?
Gore.......Republican like its my turn
Kerry..........Boston liberal again
Obama.......a black guy with a muslim name against the Hillary machine, get real


Someone will emerge to take on Hillary.
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If the Dems trott out Hillary....he and even a number of tea bagger favs instantly become viable--if for no other reason, than...they ain't Hillary.
I agree but I don't think Hillary gets the nomination.
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Old 11-08-2013, 08:45 AM   #26
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Wolf in sheeps clothing. Just because he tells it like it is doesn't mean what he is saying is right for the country.

At this point in the election the Democrats have nominated one front runner since Adalei stevenson,m Humphries era.

Recent history.......All of these were give no chance at the nomination

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Kerry..........Boston liberal again
Obama.......a black guy with a musklim name, get real


Someone will emerge to take on Hillary.
Maybe. But look at your list closely...only Clinton and Obama won--and in each case, it was mostly due to weak competition from the GOP. Say what you will about Christie, but he would not be weak competition for Hillary among most of the electorate (except single women, and a few couple of staunchly Democratic demographic groups.) Christie would likely do a good bit better than Romney among key independent and moderate groups.
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I agree but I don't think Hillary gets the nomination.
If not Hillary, who then? That is the million dollar question.
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If not Hillary, who then? That is the million dollar question.
Yes, I don't think the Dem picture solidifies for another 18 months.
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Yup, not a viable national candidate.
Always so nice of partisan Dems to eagerly point out how unpure Rep candidates are, so they can spend the next 4 years bitching about how rigid the Rep party is.

For progressives, there are 3 types of people who are not precisely like them, the stupid, the evil and the dreaded moderate who MUST be destroyed.
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