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Old 11-08-2013, 06:45 PM  
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Should coaches be allowed to challenge penalties?

With all of the extra flags being thrown nowadays for roughing the passer and helmet to helmet hits, should the red challenge flag also be able to be used for penalties?

The refs have been instructed to err on the side of caution, and thats fine, but frequently it's resulted in some some pretty poor judgement calls that are made in real time. These calls could be corrected if the ref had the chance to review it in slow mo.

So, leaving the challenge rules as they are now, and just adding in penalties as a challengeable item, would it be a good idea?
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Old 11-08-2013, 11:05 PM   #46
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To hell with that.

Its not like it happens with every "exciting play", it happens with very, very few of them. The refs are nowhere close to good enough to go without replay, I want egregious mistakes to be corrected.

To those who say "well, they don't get the call right on replay, so it doesn't matter", bullcrap. Almost every single time we have a replay, I agree with what they decide after review, the replay system is working fine, and its not really slowing the game down.
And the original system of 2 challenges per game per team adequately addressed that. The majority of the reviews seem to end up being inconclusive and the call on the field often stands.
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Old 11-08-2013, 11:05 PM   #47
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In the old days when a great play happened, the ref made the signal and you celebrated. Very spontaneous and fun.

Now when there is a an exciting play, you wait on pins and needles, watch a Geico commercial, wait for the referee to make the call and by that time the excitement is over.

Yeah, let's ditch replay. The calls come out even in the end.
Unless there is a flag, which happens all too often. Then you are still stuck waiting to hear from the officials to see if the play will stand or not.
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Old 11-08-2013, 11:08 PM   #48
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And the original system of 2 challenges per game per team adequately addressed that. The majority of the reviews seem to end up being inconclusive and the call on the field often stands.
I am willing to go back to the old system of 2 challenges, getting 1 back if you win, and let the booth handle the last 2 minutes. Reviewing after every score or turnover might be a bit much.

Though, when its obvious that the score or turnover was correctly called, they usually do a good job of getting ready for the next play while whoever is reviewing the obvious, and not bothering to announce the play stands when everyone knew it was good.
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Old 11-08-2013, 11:10 PM   #49
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To hell with that.

Its not like it happens with every "exciting play", it happens with very, very few of them.
It's conditioning. If a play happens along the sideline I'm wondering if he stepped out. If it happens on a special teams play I'm wondering if there was holding (not really replay related). If it happens on a turnover I'm wondering if it will be overturned. If there is a goal line play I'm wondering if his knee touched before he broke the plane. If there is a pass play along the sidelines I'm wondering if he got both feet down. If the ball moves as the player goes to the ground I'm wondering if he caught it clean. It happens on a lot more plays than you think. Replays are intrusive to the game and lessen my enjoyment of it.
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Old 11-08-2013, 11:14 PM   #50
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Just imagine if there was a way to review them calling OOB on Bowe earlier this year against the Titans. Had the refs just allowed that to play out rather than whistle the ball dead instant replay would have fixed it. Unfortunately, the refs got in the way of even getting the correct call.
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Old 11-08-2013, 11:14 PM   #51
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If it is a sack strip I'm worried about if his arm was going forward or if the tuck rule applies. If a PI is called I'm wondering if the ball was tipped. If we recover a fumble I'm wondering if the opponent's knee was down.
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Old 11-08-2013, 11:21 PM   #52
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If it is a sack strip I'm worried about if his arm was going forward or if the tuck rule applies. If a PI is called I'm wondering if the ball was tipped. If we recover a fumble I'm wondering if the opponent's knee was down.
This is an incredibly good point. It changes how you watch the game.
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Old 11-08-2013, 11:21 PM   #53
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I just don't want to lose another playoff game to the donks because some ref misses our TE knee touching the ground before going out of bounds in the end zone. I still with the people upstairs had the power instead of wasting our times with a ref shoving his head in a box. It would make things go a lot quicker.
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Old 11-08-2013, 11:31 PM   #54
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I just don't want to lose another playoff game to the donks because some ref misses our TE knee touching the ground before going out of bounds in the end zone. I still with the people upstairs had the power instead of wasting our times with a ref shoving his head in a box. It would make things go a lot quicker.
ON this I completely agree. There is absolutely NO REASON for this to be decided by the ref on the field with ONE small screen.
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Old 11-08-2013, 11:46 PM   #55
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In the old days when a great play happened, the ref made the signal and you celebrated. Very spontaneous and fun.

Now when there is a an exciting play, you wait on pins and needles, watch a Geico commercial, wait for the referee to make the call and by that time the excitement is over.

Yeah, let's ditch replay. The calls come out even in the end.
Hey man, state your opinion on instant replay, that's fine. That's what this thread is about. But you leave Geico commercials the hell alone. What have they ever done to you?
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Old 11-08-2013, 11:53 PM   #56
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Hey man, state your opinion on instant replay, that's fine. That's what this thread is about. But you leave Geico commercials the hell alone. What have they ever done to you?
Geico commercials are well and good. I just don't consider them part of my Chiefs-just-scored-a-TD celebration.
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Old 11-08-2013, 11:54 PM   #57
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Geico commercials are well and good. I just don't consider them part of my Chiefs-just-scored-a-TD celebration.
lol...during a few of the Pioli years, the Geico commercials were probably the best part of watching the Chiefs play.
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Old 11-09-2013, 12:08 AM   #58
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There are so many phantom calls that change games and with all the vegas/big money involved I don't see the problem with a calll or two per half depending on your ability to get it right in place.
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Old 11-09-2013, 02:52 AM   #59
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Each coach gets three challenges to use on any questionable call, that's it. No automatic reviews on TDs, refs call it, coach challenges it. Holding, fumbles, TDs, hits, blocking calls, whatever. If you win three in a game, you get three more. Lose one and lose a timeout.

Leave it on the team to have replay "officials" on their bench or in their own booths to make the call to the coach.
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