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Old 11-08-2013, 05:45 PM  
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Should coaches be allowed to challenge penalties?

With all of the extra flags being thrown nowadays for roughing the passer and helmet to helmet hits, should the red challenge flag also be able to be used for penalties?

The refs have been instructed to err on the side of caution, and thats fine, but frequently it's resulted in some some pretty poor judgement calls that are made in real time. These calls could be corrected if the ref had the chance to review it in slow mo.

So, leaving the challenge rules as they are now, and just adding in penalties as a challengeable item, would it be a good idea?
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Old 11-09-2013, 05:18 AM   #61
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Old 11-09-2013, 08:14 AM   #62
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"Well, here we go again Dan. This is the 37th consecutive defensive snap that that Andy Reid has thrown the red flag challenging the non-call for holding on Tamba Hali."

"I'm telling you Greg, at some point the Chiefs are going to lose a timeout on these challenges."
No he was actually using scissors to cut his underarmour on the sidelines during the Raiders game it wasn't those lineman, stand up dudes over there in the bay area..
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Old 11-09-2013, 08:41 AM   #63
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No, but they should consider making the penalty for Pass Interference less severe. I hate when a deep bomb is thrown, the catch isnt made and the team gets the ball at the spot of foul. Cheap yardage.
The problem with this is that DBs in the NFL, knowing that they are about to give up a huge pass play, would commit a the PI, preferring the 15 yards.
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:14 AM   #64
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So we want to challenge penalties called and penalties not called? A real mess.
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:28 AM   #65
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Coaches would challenge every penalty so I do not believe that would work

They might want to put in a non bias penalty review system to look at these penalties and make sure they get them right since so much can change on one shitty call

kind of like the world series huddle where the one ump was over ruled by the huddle. Got the call right. It might suck when it doesn't go your way and it might slow down game tempo but if they get it right at least they get it right instead of just saying sorry about that later on after you already got ****ed out of a win
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:44 AM   #66
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No.

But I'd like them to do away with replays under the hood. Just have someone upstairs review everything as soon as it happens
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:55 AM   #67
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I will say this, and wondering if I'll hear a halleluiah.

It drives me crazy that coaches can call timeouts from the sidelines. I'm sorry, but if nobody on the field of play has awareness that the clock is running out, a coach should NOT be able to bail those guys out.
Agree. There was a time when team captains actually meant something - at all levels of football. (Any player can call timeout, but back then it was usually the captains' responsibility.)
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Old 11-09-2013, 10:34 AM   #68
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So we want to challenge penalties called and penalties not called? A real mess.

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Coaches would challenge every penalty so I do not believe that would work

They might want to put in a non bias penalty review system to look at these penalties and make sure they get them right since so much can change on one shitty call

kind of like the world series huddle where the one ump was over ruled by the huddle. Got the call right. It might suck when it doesn't go your way and it might slow down game tempo but if they get it right at least they get it right instead of just saying sorry about that later on after you already got ****ed out of a win
I would say only certain penalties being challengeable. The main ones being the roughing the passer and the helmet to helmet hit penalties. Those are usually drive changing penalties and too often they are getting them wrong.

I also fully agree that it doesn't even need to be an under the hood review or even challengeable for that matter. Just somebody upstairs buzzing the corrected call to the refs on the field is enough. It can be quick and effective.
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Old 11-09-2013, 11:46 AM   #69
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Defensive PI is one of the most bullshit penalties called. I can't even distinguish what is and what isn't a penalty any longer.
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Old 11-09-2013, 11:59 AM   #70
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Old 11-09-2013, 12:19 PM   #71
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not unless they change they way they do challenges

If they do them like in college where the booth does it all and we don't have to waste time watching the refs run over to a screen and are expected to overturn themselves.


all booth = faster (which would allow for more)
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Old 11-09-2013, 12:25 PM   #72
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Defensive pass interference should be spot of the foul and repeat the down unless it's advanced past the marker, holding needs to be redefined so that it doesn't "happen on every play" but egregious holds such as the patented Choke-a-Tamba are still called.
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Old 11-09-2013, 12:43 PM   #73
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I may be in the minority, but I don't really get worked up by bad reffing. I'll comment on a bad call, but I don't think its a major issue.

I hate the new QB roughing and defenseless receiver rules, but reviews aren't the solution.

Overall its just a non issue for me.
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Old 11-09-2013, 01:23 PM   #74
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How awesome would it be if they just had a referee in a box upstairs reviewing all the angles making the penalty calls. He could even make circles and shit on screen to support the penalty call and it could be integrated into the broadcast in some way.
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Old 11-09-2013, 03:42 PM   #75
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Absolutely yes. Coaches need to be able to put incompetent and/or biased refs on the spot and force them to make the correct calls.
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