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Old 11-11-2013, 09:15 PM  
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:08 AM   #121
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Your inability to discern a hypothesis and scientific theory are your failing, not mine.
So youíre denying that evolution is a theory?
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:10 AM   #122
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So you’re denying that evolution is a theory?
Of course not.

Simply that you don't know the difference between a hypothesis and a theory, which you continually put on display for everyone to see.

Scientific 'theories' (your words) are called 'hypothesis' when they have no empirical support. When they have been supported by empirical fact, they become theories. Much like quantum mechanics and gravity, except evolution actually has MORE supporting evidence than those two.
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:11 AM   #123
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So because I acknowledge, accurately, that evolution is a theory Iím denying itís a theory? How again?



I understand fully what Iím arguing, some of you seem to have a stigma attached to the word theory.
Yes, I also know that it is not provable, probably never will be. That doesnít change a word Iíve posted.
It can't be proven as fact or have the word theory removed, therefore you saying it "it hasn't been proven as fact" as some kind of gotcha makes no sense. You seem to be denying the theory and its merits, not that it is a theory. So do you accept evolution or not?

It isn't that it "probably will never be," it is that it CANNOT be proven 100%. It is impossible. You still don't understand.
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:13 AM   #124
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:14 AM   #125
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I've responded to everything you've posted to me.
If I've missed something point it out.
I was talking about stevieray which is who WhiteWhale was responding to.
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:14 AM   #126
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It's easy to earn internets, just act like a primate..make loud noises and claim it's from your ancestry.
Notice no one has asked what I think about evolution as a theory? Itís much easier to just assume then act outraged. Itís almost a religious like fervor that ensues.
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:16 AM   #127
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Of course not.

Simply that you don't know the difference between a hypothesis and a theory, which you continually put on display for everyone to see.

Scientific 'theories' (your words) are called 'hypothesis' when they have no empirical support. When they have been supported by empirical fact, they become theories. Much like quantum mechanics and gravity, except evolution actually has MORE supporting evidence than those two.
Go ahead and quote what ďhypothesesĒ Iíve claimed as ďtheoryĒ.
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:18 AM   #128
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Go ahead and quote what “hypotheses” I’ve claimed as “theory”.
That's not what you're doing.

What you're doing is using the 'just a theory' argument which is exclusively used by people to discredit or dismiss a scientific theory as merely an idea and not a provable mechanism with incredible amounts of empirical evidence.

IF this is not what you are doing, you are just trolling. Either way, you don't deserve applause for it.
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:19 AM   #129
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Notice no one has asked what I think about evolution as a theory? Itís much easier to just assume then act outraged. Itís almost a religious like fervor that ensues.
It is a religion.
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:21 AM   #130
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It can't be proven as fact or have the word theory removed, therefore you saying it "it hasn't been proven as fact" as some kind of gotcha makes no sense. You seem to be denying the theory and its merits, not that it is a theory.
Quote where Iíve done this.

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So do you accept evolution or not?
Iíll be damned, someone actually asked.
I accept that evolution is a theory and that from what we currently know it is the most likely conclusion.

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It isn't that it "probably will never be," it is that it CANNOT be proven 100%. It is impossible. You still don't understand.
Youíre not leaving open the possibility someone will invent a time machine so they can go back and record each evolutionary step.
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:21 AM   #131
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It is a religion.
Religions have dogma and rituals.

Science has empirical fact and research.

Totally the same thing.
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:22 AM   #132
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Religions have dogma and rituals.

Science has empirical fact and research.

Totally the same thing.
Buzzwords mean much, really they do.
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:23 AM   #133
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Buzzwords mean much, really they do.

Buzzwords are subjective. 'Empirical' and 'dogma' are not buzzwords.

Being dismissive doesn't make you smart and that's all you really do on this topic...you dismiss facts in favor of dogma.
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:23 AM   #134
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That's not what you're doing.
OK, so you can drop that accusation then.

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What you're doing is using the 'just a theory' argument which is exclusively used by people to discredit or dismiss a scientific theory as merely an idea and not a provable mechanism with incredible amounts of empirical evidence.
Assumptions. You know what they say about them.

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IF this is not what you are doing, you are just trolling. Either way, you don't deserve applause for it.
I do not now, nor have I ever, sought your approval.
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I was talking about stevieray which is who WhiteWhale was responding to.
Apologies then.
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