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Old 11-12-2013, 12:12 PM  
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Bill Clinton taking on Obama?

Sounds like the first shot may have been fired……basically calling out the Liar and saying change the law and man up…..


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...keep-what-got/
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Old 11-12-2013, 03:34 PM   #16
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Obama is starting to hunker down for a fight with Dems up for reelection as well as big time party supporters. His only "accomplishment" is tanking faster than the Titanic.

In reality they had an opportunity to put it on ice, really get deep into the problems and fix them. Too late. He has ****ed up the insurance business, has no govt substitute, and business never going to add a job as long as this albatross hangs over their cost structure. Obama chose to follow his ego.

He had Bill on his side till he started digging in. Now it can hurt Hillary big time. Obama has to talk tough and refuse to cave or he comes off as the absolute biggest disaster of any President.

He has totally ****ed up Overseas. Kerry is just a sad sick joke. The Benghazi scam will only fester more till election time and Hillary is front and center because of Obama.

Anyone who does not recognize this change in Bill Clintons rhetoric and the internal fight it will set off is terribly misguided. The pro Clinton side will line up with Bill and Hillary. The House and Senate incumbents will run to Hillary for shelter. And Obama will set fire to his own tent.
The right caused the the shutdown is going to be a hard sell if the left ends up asking for a Mulligan on this ****up. Add that to the total mess of PR issues swept under the rug and suddenly the left doesn't look so unbeatable as the groupies here have been claiming while pounding their chests. I do know this much the power grab made will not be given up by the right if they win control. They will simply revise it and maintain the power it allows~
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Old 11-12-2013, 04:10 PM   #17
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Does Obama get any credit from anyone if they fix things so that you truly can keep your plan? I don't mean praise, but just credit for manning up and admitting errors?
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Old 11-12-2013, 04:30 PM   #18
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Does Obama get any credit from anyone if they fix things so that you truly can keep your plan? I don't mean praise, but just credit for manning up and admitting errors?
Sure. But understand that guts ObamaCare. You cannot force coverage of everything under the sun and change the rules while allowing the folks to keep the old policies that don't have the same regs. It cannot work. And if you don't force people into the Exchanges and force kids to buy insurance you can't pay for the rest.

If mom and dads old policy doesn't cove Junior, then Junior is out in the cold?


This idea kills ObamaCare. Period
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Old 11-12-2013, 04:46 PM   #19
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Does Obama get any credit from anyone if they fix things so that you truly can keep your plan? I don't mean praise, but just credit for manning up and admitting errors?
You mean after he shutdown the government refusing to delay this train wreck. Also when has this guy ever manned up and accepted responsibility?
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Old 11-12-2013, 06:33 PM   #20
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This is nothing more than a political tack for Hillary. It gives her a way of distancing herself from the disaster known now as Obama. Unfortunately it is probably too late and Benghazi already did her in. Gulp deep skankles and just go to sleep.
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Old 11-12-2013, 06:36 PM   #21
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Does Obama get any credit from anyone if they fix things so that you truly can keep your plan? I don't mean praise, but just credit for manning up and admitting errors?
If that happens Obamacare is officially dead because it can't keep it's head above water. So no, Obama gets no credit for betraying the middle class in the first place.
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Old 11-12-2013, 07:13 PM   #22
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I don't understand how Obama has always been on the side of the minority yet when millions of Americans are the minority of plan cancellations he couldn't give a ****. He says 'When gun control will save one child its worth it' , 'if 1% of the Native American race are offended by the name Redskins it shouldn't be ignored' but if 5% of insured Americans get their plan cancelled suck it up and buy the fed plan like everyone else.
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Old 11-12-2013, 07:24 PM   #23
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Does Obama get any credit from anyone if they fix things so that you truly can keep your plan? I don't mean praise, but just credit for manning up and admitting errors?
Uh really? You mean after he was bashed from every angle, for weeks, for years and when finally he ran out of fingers and toes to point at others you want him to receive credit?????
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Old 11-12-2013, 09:41 PM   #24
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Uh really? You mean after he was bashed from every angle, for weeks, for years and when finally he ran out of fingers and toes to point at others you want him to receive credit?????
Did I say I wanted that? Settle down. I was just curious what some thoughts were.
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Old 11-13-2013, 10:50 AM   #25
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The Clinton political machine accurately sees that Obama is going to be less popular when he leaves office than Bush was when he left office, and are already distancing themselves from him.
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Old 11-13-2013, 11:21 AM   #26
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Did I say I wanted that? Settle down. I was just curious what some thoughts were.
Oh. Well in that case. No.
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Old 11-13-2013, 11:50 AM   #27
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I don't understand how Obama has always been on the side of the minority yet when millions of Americans are the minority of plan cancellations he couldn't give a ****. He says 'When gun control will save one child its worth it' , 'if 1% of the Native American race are offended by the name Redskins it shouldn't be ignored' but if 5% of insured Americans get their plan cancelled suck it up and buy the fed plan like everyone else.
Time to call a spade a spade: Obama is an international socialist ( aka communist) who wants to disarm Americans while claiming to not infringe gun rights; who wants have the UN disarm Americans as well as the rest of the people of the world including nations from defending themselves ( like the NeoCons); who is even using Obamacare to see who has a gun under the guise of mental health; to dictate a national education curriculum, to move to single payer under the guise of Obamacare.

Obama is a tool of the cabal that is attempting to rule the world selling a free people a bill of goods that makes them slaves to the state.
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Old 11-13-2013, 01:30 PM   #28
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Clinton really tore him a new one.

This from a guy who said this, "I did NOT have sex with that WOMAN, miss Lewinski....."
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Old 11-13-2013, 01:32 PM   #29
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Time to call a spade a spade: Obama is an international socialist ( aka communist) who wants to disarm Americans while claiming to not infringe gun rights; who wants have the UN disarm Americans as well as the rest of the people of the world including nations from defending themselves ( like the NeoCons); who is even using Obamacare to see who has a gun under the guise of mental health; to dictate a national education curriculum, to move to single payer under the guise of Obamacare.

Obama is a tool of the cabal that is attempting to rule the world selling a free people a bill of goods that makes them slaves to the state.
It is rather amusing watching all the sheeple squeal now as they are being led to the slaughter.
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