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Old 11-12-2013, 04:53 PM  
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You should be able to keep yout health care plan.

Clinton is right. Obama needs to man up and work with the Republicans in the house and senate.

Produce a bill that exempts current health care plans from following Obamacare guidelines.

Thats what was sold to the public...........you like your health care plan, you can keep it.

It's the right thing to do.


Now, employer provided insurance should never have happened, but it did. Employee provided insurance's days are numbered. It's going to die soon. Thats a totally separate issue from Obamacare.

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Old 11-12-2013, 04:56 PM   #2
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Old 11-12-2013, 05:00 PM   #3
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I think this thing has got to be repealed. Everyone sees what is happening with the individual market right now. Next year, the same thing is set to happen in the group market. Is that what people want?

This thing has only begun to unpack itself. My employer has already let us know that we're losing our plan next year, and the one replacing it will be more expensive. They've asked us if we'd like an FSA plan. I'm considering it. I've had insurance since getting a job out of college, and now I'm considering dropping it, using the FSA, and signing up with a local concierge doctor. I'll use the FSA to cover expenses, and if we get sick we apply for health insurance during the next open enrollment.

But you guys stay in this crap so that I have something to come back to if I need it, aight?
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Old 11-12-2013, 05:01 PM   #4
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Old 11-12-2013, 05:07 PM   #5
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They probably shouldn't have tinkered with this in the first place.
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Old 11-12-2013, 05:10 PM   #6
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They probably shouldn't have tinkered with this in the first place.
Tinkered?

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Old 11-12-2013, 05:13 PM   #7
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Honestly this is a classic damned if you do damned if you don't point.

Is it the right thing to do? Absolutely...will it kill obummercare even more? Almost certainly Why? The only people who will be keeping their plans will be those who's plans are cheap and healthy. That makes even fewer people to spread around all the costs for all the sick people in obummercare. Which means the costs are going to be even higher than what they are today.

Long term this likely won't last in that the insurance companies alone will probably kill most plans. Really this is a Sophie's Choice for Obama.
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Old 11-12-2013, 05:15 PM   #8
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This thread is interesting though. Goes to show you how much power Bill Clinton has in this nation right now. We wouldn't have seen this thread last week.
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Old 11-12-2013, 05:26 PM   #9
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This thread is interesting though. Goes to show you how much power Bill Clinton has in this nation right now. We wouldn't have seen this thread last week.
Who do you think won the election for Obama? Clinton's convention speech.

Regardless of who brought it to the forefront of the discussion. It was suppose to be a part of the Obamacare deal. It's still the right thing to do.
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Old 11-12-2013, 05:27 PM   #10
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This thread is interesting though. Goes to show you how much power Bill Clinton has in this nation right now. We wouldn't have seen this thread last week.

Clinton is masterful at changing horses in midstream and always being on the winning side. He did it when Newt had him in a corner and came out looking like he and Newt were lifelong buds. Bill has to see that ObamaCare is a wreck. Its a loser. It will drag deems down including Hillary if she doesn't come out on this. She can go back to her Hillary Care days. But the fact is Hillary cannot stand with Obama.


BRC is smart enough to get with Bill before the short bus is full.
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Old 11-12-2013, 05:32 PM   #11
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Clinton is masterful at changing horses in midstream and always being on the winning side. He did it when Newt had him in a corner and came out looking like he and Newt were lifelong buds. Bill has to see that ObamaCare is a wreck. Its a loser. It will drag deems down including Hillary if she doesn't come out on this. She can go back to her Hillary Care days. But the fact is Hillary cannot stand with Obama.


BRC is smart enough to get with Bill before the short bus is full.
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Since when has any politician in the last 15 years did "the right thing"?
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Old 11-12-2013, 05:46 PM   #13
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The best part is that people didn't see this coming. Anyone who supported this should have their head examined for a tumor. Under that worthless **** bum **** barry and his care no less.

Stupid mother ****ers.

But thanks big flustered queef. After supporting this getting shoved down our throats I'm so, so happy to see you realized you're a moron.
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Old 11-12-2013, 05:56 PM   #14
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Old 11-12-2013, 05:59 PM   #15
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Clinton is right. Obama needs to man up and work with the Republicans in the house and senate.

Produce a bill that exempts current health care plans from following Obamacare guidelines.

Thats what was sold to the public...........you like your health care plan, you can keep it.

It's the right thing to do.


Now, employer provided insurance should never have happened, but it did. Employee provided insurance's days are numbered. It's going to die soon. Thats a totally separate issue from Obamacare.
It's really not a separate issue. It's a big issue. You'll have Americans going from pre-tax company subsidized dollars to post tax non-company subsidized dollars. And they will be pissed.

"Hey I know you're working hard, but you're about to take a 400 dollar per month pay cut. Enjoy."
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