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Old 11-12-2013, 04:53 PM  
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You should be able to keep yout health care plan.

Clinton is right. Obama needs to man up and work with the Republicans in the house and senate.

Produce a bill that exempts current health care plans from following Obamacare guidelines.

Thats what was sold to the public...........you like your health care plan, you can keep it.

It's the right thing to do.


Now, employer provided insurance should never have happened, but it did. Employee provided insurance's days are numbered. It's going to die soon. Thats a totally separate issue from Obamacare.

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Old 11-12-2013, 08:51 PM   #61
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I'm curious what about these plans would not be considered by the right to be "a govt takeover of healthcare" and the imposition of a socialist dictatorship.
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:51 PM   #62
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Because they can continue to compete with each other on product composition and price and because we can have recourse through government oversight and the courts if they rip us off.
I think that's a pipe dream. We've just legislated guaranteed business to them. That's not competition.
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:54 PM   #63
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I believe when asked about including the Republicans in the passage of OBamaCare, the Presidents main man Rahm Emanuel was quoted as saying 'We have the votes. **** them.'
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:56 PM   #64
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I'll give you the first two steps.
Step 1: Repeal Obamacare

Step 2: Make sure liars and charlatans like Obama have nothing to do with the next attempt to address this issue.
Thats what I thought. Typical Republican approach. We are against what those other guys are for. No original ideas or thoughts. Status quo is good for us. We want our America back!
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:59 PM   #65
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Thats what I thought. Typical Republican approach. We are against what those other guys are for. No original ideas or thoughts. Status quo is good for us. We want our America back!
, you can't crush the middle class fast enough, can you???
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:59 PM   #66
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I think that's a pipe dream. We've just legislated guaranteed business to them. That's not competition.
That's not exactly true. We've legislated a market for them. They still have to fight over the customers.
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Old 11-12-2013, 09:00 PM   #67
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Thats what I thought. Typical Republican approach. We are against what those other guys are for. No original ideas or thoughts. Status quo is good for us. We want our America back!
I got a plan. Repeal this dogshit and extend medicare to the entire country...or get Government out of healthcare altogether.
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Old 11-12-2013, 09:00 PM   #68
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By evidence do you mean flat out lies and voting for an unread bill on party lines?????
It's hard to ever take you seriously. And I don't mean that I never agree with you. It's that you are so ridiculous.
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I'll give you the first two steps. It's not up to me to provide you with a fully realized plan and you wouldn't be able to evaluate it anyway. Lord knows you'll buy just about anything if it comes from the lips of a democrat.

Step 1: Repeal Obamacare

Step 2: Make sure liars and charlatans like Obama have nothing to do with the next attempt to address this issue.
So, you have absolutely nothing.
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Thats what I thought. Typical Republican approach. We are against what those other guys are for. No original ideas or thoughts. Status quo is good for us. We want our America back!
No one wants the status quo. I don't want single payer or the horrible failure called Obamacare. I've described some of the things I want before, but I don't feel like making this about my ideas here. It's enough to point out that you now agree the Obamacare status quo is enough of a failure that you want to completely change the ground rules by letting people keep the plans they previously had. That's impossible at this point, without further undermining the ****ed up plan you played cheerleader for until now.
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So, you have absolutely nothing.
Incorrect. Weak effort.
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I believe when asked about including the Republicans in the passage of OBamaCare, the Presidents main man Rahm Emanuel was quoted as saying 'We have the votes. **** them.'
If they aren't going to discuss it in a reasonable way, that is the proper response.
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I got a plan. Repeal this dogshit and extend medicare to the entire country...
I've already said thats what I wanted all along. Who knew we would ever agree on something. Time for a
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I got a plan. Repeal this dogshit and extend medicare to the entire country...or get Government out of healthcare altogether.
That is a reasonable discussion to have. And that's why it likely will never happen.
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That is a reasonable discussion to have. And that's why it likely will never happen.
Especially if that black guy is still President.
































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