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Old 11-14-2013, 03:51 PM  
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Wisconsin Thanksgiving lesson teaches hate and racism

Thanksgiving lesson teaches hate and racism

KAREN SCHROEDER



Karen Schroeder is the President of Advocates for Academic Freedom, a member of the Wisconsin Educational Communications Board, an experienced public school teacher with an MA, and an educational consultant.


MADISON, Wis. – A Thanksgiving lesson that teaches hate, fear, and racism rather than collaboration, diversity, and respect for truth has been prepared for students in Wisconsin K-5 classrooms.

According to the Department of Public Instruction website, this approach was first recommended in 1977.

This Thanksgiving lesson is based upon a “likelihood, the ‘First Thanksgiving’ in colonial America was proclaimed in 1637 to commemorate the murder of approximately 700 Pequot Indians at Mystic Fort.” This disgusting hypothesis is based on the admitted supposition of the late Professor William Newell of the University of Connecticut.

Actual documents from the 17th century include Edward Winslow’s writings in Mourt’s Relation and William Bradford’s account in Of Plymouth Plantation which describe the Thanksgiving in 1621 where settlers and Native Americans shared food and gave thanks



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Old 11-16-2013, 05:29 PM   #31
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Old 11-16-2013, 05:32 PM   #32
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Old 11-16-2013, 05:42 PM   #33
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You see no difference between acknowledging past slaughters and asserting that our national holidays celebrate said slaughters?
Yes I do. However the way the indians were treated were no less evil than how Hitler treated Jews. Do I think that should be taught to 5 year olds...no but it sure should be taught cause it sure wasn't when I was in school~
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Old 11-16-2013, 05:44 PM   #34
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Yes I do. However the way the indians were treated were no less evil than how Hitler treated Jews. Do I think that should be taught to 5 year olds...no but it sure be taught cause it sure wasn't when I was in school~
...warring tribes were no walk in the park.

I findi it odd that Indians are usually portrayed as peaceful..while some were, some were very brutal.

the world was a VERY different place four hundred years ago...to apply todays standards is lunacy.
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Old 11-16-2013, 06:07 PM   #35
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Sadly in the case of Jamestown things got ugly and as farming grew things got uglier and soon turned into Winner takes all. Natives got along with the French better as far as I can tell. The English were Imperialists and that carried on through history to the present. They wanted to make America a melting pot for everyone but the NA . Thats more or less the score. They knew it woud be best for the opportunists to kill all of the NA . The fight is far from over , American civilians may not know it , but the FBI and DHS do.
Well, generally speaking, the southern colonies were developed primarily as financial investments. It was also a time of competing empires struggling to grab every bit of the rumored outrageous wealth; if England didn't go for it as much as they did, they were worried that Spain (with their overpowering armada) would. Or France. Or Portugal, or the Netherlands, or whoever else could get a ship and crew out there. Of course they were Imperialists. All of Europe was (well, western Europe, anyway).

And once America became America, its motivation for everything has been a bit of an internal struggle between power, freedom and puritanism - which makes sense, since our first wave of settlers were after either financial or religious freedom.

These days, even if the people in charge still, for whatever reason, bore a hideous grudge against Native Americans, they're not nearly a big enough threat for the FBI or DHS to wage a targeted war against. Why would they? Intermarriage and cultural erosion is more of a danger to the various tribes's ways of life then sending an army of government goons could ever be.
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Old 11-16-2013, 06:09 PM   #36
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...it is suggested the CC was hired to find a place for persecuted Jews in Spain.
I have not heard that, and it's been my impression that nobody at that time gave enough of a s*** what happened to the persecuted Jews in Spain to spend any money on them.

That said, I suppose it's theoretically possible. If you have any sources, I'd be happy to read them.
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Old 11-16-2013, 06:11 PM   #37
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...warring tribes were no walk in the park.

I findi it odd that Indians are usually portrayed as peaceful..while some were, some were very brutal.

the world was a VERY different place four hundred years ago...to apply todays standards is lunacy.
They ran the same gamuts of emotions and methodologies that the rest of the world did. There were fang-toothed cannibals and vicious warmongers, but there were also placid peace-loving hippies who just couldn't grasp the concept of even a fistfight. Most of them were somewhere near the middle, and were concerned mostly with survival.

And your last sentence is spot on.
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Old 11-16-2013, 06:21 PM   #38
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This makes sense , between too many Irish and growing populations due to the Industrial revolution the writing was on the wall by the time Jefferson died. Kill off the plains Indians ASAP.
Nah, they were still trying to kill off the Eastern Woodland Indians then. White people didn't try to kill off all of the Plains Indians until much later.

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And some were into magic and the stars and mounds aligned to them. NA were fierce no doubt about it ... but overall , I dont think they had the same lean towards ruining the very environment that was sustaining them. In this respect they were not savages. It is Civilized man that makes up the Beast that tears up the earth .
I . . . can't really argue with this.

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The NA down south of the border .... now that is another story in and of its own. Some of those tribes were downright spookey. But they didnt build the ruins in Peru for instance . That was an ancient culture without alphabets that could move huge hewn stones without wheels.
The Incans actually had a method of record-keeping based on how a piece of rope was knotted. I've never studied it very deeply, but it sounds so alien in its concept that I bet it is fascinating to decode. Maybe someday.

And someone was recently doing some studies on how the Easter Island statues were moved. Their idea was that they were 'walked', like you do a heavy bag of plaster or something. It would have taken a ton of human labor, but hey, they built the Pyramids that way, so who knows.
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Old 11-16-2013, 06:28 PM   #39
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Old 11-16-2013, 06:32 PM   #40
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...warring tribes were no walk in the park.

I findi it odd that Indians are usually portrayed as peaceful..while some were, some were very brutal.

the world was a VERY different place four hundred years ago...to apply todays standards is lunacy.
Really? How is removing a race for gain change over time? We get pissed over the invasion on illegals coming here. Now imagine if they were taking control of land and demanding we adjust to their beliefs and customs. Yeah I would guess many of them viewed the white man as the enemy. Guess what they were right~
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Old 11-16-2013, 06:34 PM   #41
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Really? How is removing a race for gain change over time? We get pissed over the invasion on illegals coming here. Now imagine if they were taking control of land and demanding we adjust to their beliefs and customs. Yeah I would guess many of them viewed the white man as the enemy. Guess what they were right~
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Old 11-16-2013, 06:40 PM   #42
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The trail of tears was not 400 years ago. What went on happened and it was as wrong as wrong can be. Seeking the truth doesn't always lead to happy places~
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Old 11-16-2013, 06:44 PM   #43
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Well, they didn't have a problem with slavery at the time, for one.
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Old 11-16-2013, 06:48 PM   #44
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Well, they didn't have a problem with slavery at the time, for one.
That makes it right for ****s sake. That issue was not seriously addressed until the 60s. Save me the Lincoln freed speech~
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Old 11-16-2013, 07:42 PM   #45
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My point is that what is seen as wrong, and what is seen as forgivable, changes drastically over time and circumstance. To us, who live in relative safety, the slaughter of a village full of Pequot women and children may seem unconscionable. Ask a Connecticutian in 1637 - who had to watch the woods every minute or every day for four years, for fear that a band of murderous Indians would materialize out of nowhere and slaughter them and their entire family and everyone they ever knew - and they would be much more likely to forgive or even applaud it.
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