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Old 11-15-2013, 01:34 PM  
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Union Pacific's Last of the giant's



UP Locomotive number 2014 is on her way from Pomona California to Cheyenne Wyoming this week





By John M. Glionna

July 29, 2013, 1:23 p.m.

It has been called the last of the giant freight locomotives, a lumbering behemoth known as the “Big Boy 4014.” For half a century it has been on display at the Los Angeles County Fairgrounds in Pomona, drawing railroad buffs from around the nation.

Now the mammoth steam engine is about to take another trip -- to the vast plains of rural Wyoming.

Union Pacific Railroad officials recently announced that the company has reached an agreement to acquire the locomotive from the RailGiants Train Museum at the fairgrounds. The railroad said it plans to move the engine to maintenance shops in Cheyenne, where crews will try to get it back to running condition.

“We’re really excited about the acquisition of the 2014 Big Boy,” railroad spokesman Aaron Hunt told the Los Angeles Times, adding that Union Pacific will post updates about the move, planned for the near future. Updates will be posted on Twitter @RailGiants.
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:19 PM   #31
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you're dead to me man .
This country was built on the backs of the UP & Central pacific railroads.
Its one of the greatest stories ever told about this country
Was.

I have to deal with those mother ****ing pirates all the time. There is nothing great about running a monopoly - nothing.
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:22 PM   #32
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With tender 1,250,000 lb (566,990.5 kilograms)

Power type Steam
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Builder American Locomotive Company
Build date 1941 (20), 1944 (5)
Total produced 25
Configuration 4-8-8-4
UIC classification (2′D)D2′ h4
Gauge 4 ft 8 1⁄2 in (1,435 mm) standard gauge
Leading wheel
diameter 36 in (914 mm)
Driver diameter 68 in (1,727 mm)
Trailing wheel
diameter 42 in (1,067 mm)
Wheelbase 72 ft 5.5 in (22.09 m)
Length Locomotive: 85 ft 3.4 in (25.99 m)
Overall: 132 ft 9 1⁄4 in (40.47 m)
Width 11 ft (3.4 m)
Height 16 ft 2 1⁄2 in (4.94 m)
Weight on drivers 540,000 lb (244,939.9 kilograms)
Locomotive weight 762,000 lb (345,637.4 kilograms)
Tender weight 342,200 lb (155,219.3 kilograms) (2/3 load)
Locomotive and tender
combined weight 1,250,000 lb (566,990.5 kilograms)
Fuel type Coal
Fuel capacity 28 short tons (25.4 t; 25.0 long tons)
Water capacity 25,000 US gal (95,000 l; 21,000 imp gal)
Boiler 95 in (2,400 mm)
Boiler pressure 300 lbf/in˛ (2.1 MPa)
Firegrate area 150 sq ft (14 m2)
Heating surface:
Tubes and flues 5,035 sq ft (468 m2)
Heating surface:
Firebox 720 sq ft (67 m2)
Heating surface:
Total 5,735 sq ft (533 m2)
Superheater type Type A
Superheater area 2,043 sq ft (190 m2)
Cylinders 4
Cylinder size 23.75 × 32 in (603 × 813 mm)
Top speed 80 mph (130 km/h)
Tractive effort 135,375 lbf (602.18 kN)
Factor of
adhesion 4.11
Career
Railroad(s) Union Pacific Railroad
Class 4000–4019: 4884-1
4020–4024: 4884-2
Last run July 21, 1959
Preserved 4004, 4005, 4006, 4012, 4014, 4017, 4018, 4023

It would go ****ing 80? 1.25M lb going 80 MPH? **** that in the facehole.
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:34 PM   #33
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It would go ****ing 80? 1.25M lb going 80 MPH? **** that in the facehole.
Railroads were maintained to a much higher standard back then.


Hell the UPs 4-8-4 eight-hundred class Northern's didnt hit they're power band until 85MPH they were easily capable of twice that even with a heavy train in tow
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:35 PM   #34
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Railroads were maintained to a much higher standard back then.


Hell the UPs 4-8-4 Northern's didnt hit they're power band until 85MPH they were easily capable of twice that even with a heavy train in tow
That'd scare the ****balls out of me. Hell an 85,000 lb truck is good enough for this fat man.
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:36 PM   #35
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WAS? We all still live off the backs of railroad men. dnt think for a second that we dont
I have to deal with those mother ****ing pirates all the time. There is nothing great about running a monopoly - nothing.
WAS?. We all still live off the backs of railroad men & woman. Dont think for second that we dont
The Great Northern Railroad is another great story of American awesomeness
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Old 11-15-2013, 08:56 PM   #36
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:04 PM   #37
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:31 PM   #38
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WAS?. We all still live off the backs of railroad men & woman. Dont think for second that we dont
The Great Northern Railroad is another great story of American awesomeness
Not really. Compared to the interstate system, it's not a big deal.
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Not really. Compared to the interstate system, it's not a big deal.
really? ya think those trucks & roads can keep Americas power plants supplied?
& thats just 1 aspect

The train-truck debate has been brewing as long as interstates connected major centers of commerce. While railroads reigned supreme for over one-hundred years going back to Abraham Lincoln’s time, trucks are an increasingly visible form of transporting goods over land. (Trains still transport more freight however.)
http://www.thezephyr.com/environ/trucktrain.html

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Old 11-15-2013, 10:17 PM   #40
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Interesting UP passes my farm at about 3-400 yards be interesting to see it barrel down the highway. Any route map available?
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Old 11-15-2013, 10:31 PM   #41
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Interesting UP passes my farm at about 3-400 yards be interesting to see it barrel down the highway. Any route map available?
www.uprr.com

Should be able to find a map there.


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Old 11-15-2013, 10:43 PM   #42
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really? ya think those trucks & roads can keep Americas power plants supplied?
& thats just 1 aspect

The train-truck debate has been brewing as long as interstates connected major centers of commerce. While railroads reigned supreme for over one-hundred years going back to Abraham Lincoln’s time, trucks are an increasingly visible form of transporting goods over land. (Trains still transport more freight however.)
http://www.thezephyr.com/environ/trucktrain.html
Good point, especially dragging all that low energy Buffalo Dung out of Wyoming every day.

Literally nearly 2 miles of dung rolling into a decent sized plant every day. 200 cars a day at 53' a car.
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that looks like the kind of train that could **** shit up.
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Old 11-15-2013, 11:00 PM   #44
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really? ya think those trucks & roads can keep Americas power plants supplied?
& thats just 1 aspect

The train-truck debate has been brewing as long as interstates connected major centers of commerce. While railroads reigned supreme for over one-hundred years going back to Abraham Lincoln’s time, trucks are an increasingly visible form of transporting goods over land. (Trains still transport more freight however.)
http://www.thezephyr.com/environ/trucktrain.html
I was at the Mississippi River near Hannibal a while back, and some signage there was touting barges as carrying way more than trucks and trains. I was quite surprised. I don't remember the numbers and if they were national or just some pro-barge subset. I'd like to see national tonnage numbers.
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Could be again . Not that it is steam .... but my first trip out to MO as a kid was on a train. We have a local steam train up in the hills that everyone born here is obliged to be taken to at least once. You might enjoy riding some of the steam trains we have out here LiveSteam . The redwoods are beautiful to see while riding on one of them.
I dont ride them. I run them, & at Gods speed to I might add .
I have chased UPs 844 & 3985 down HYW 30 all the way Cheyenne more times then I can count before my Pops passed away. Out west of North Platte they really open them up
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