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Old 11-16-2013, 08:39 PM  
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Obamacare includes a marriage penalty?

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Every time you think that we've finally touched bottom on Obamacare, some new problem emerges. So what began merely as a dysfunctional website became a broken and mis-designed system. When it turned out that lots of people were paying more for their plans, it then turned out that others were having their plans canceled—and that some people were even losing their doctors. And now we're finding that, along with everything else, Obamacare contains a marriage penalty, too.
A married couple can get Obamacare subsidies if their income is less than 400 percent above the poverty line. But because the federal poverty level for married couples is less than double the level for individuals, a couple that lives together without getting married can make more money than a married couple, yet still get Obamacare subsidies.
The Atlantic reports that in practice, this means that a married couple in New York making more than a combined $62,040 gets no subsidies from Obamacare. But two people who live together without getting married? They can make up to a combined $91,920 and still get subsidies from the government.

The government has a clear and compelling interest in promoting marriage: Virtually all of the research shows that stable marriages increase economic output, reduce poverty, shrink income inequality, lower rates of incarceration and drug use, and spur the creation of future taxpayers (aka babies). The tax code already discriminates against the government's interest by providing an economic incentive for couples to choose cohabitation over marriage. Now Obamacare has come along to magnify the discrimination.

It's not clear whether this perversity is accidental or by design. But it's yet another line item in the argument against what is clearly the most catastrophic piece of legislation in modern American history.
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Old 11-16-2013, 09:13 PM   #2
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We need to pass the legislation before we know it sucks donkey sweat.
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Old 11-16-2013, 11:53 PM   #3
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Oh hell yeah there is a marriage penalty. Why wouldn't there be ? Marx said if you want to destroy a free society you must go after God and the family
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Old 11-16-2013, 11:57 PM   #4
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We need to pass the legislation before we know it sucks donkey sweat.
Yes it does and what is more embarrassing is that no real opposition stood up and asked Nancy, "Hey Nance ! Did you teach and raise your kids in financial matters to just go ahead and sign the contract first and then read it later to see what you signed up for ????
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Old 11-17-2013, 12:02 AM   #5
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We need to pass the legislation before we know it sucks donkey sweat.
Yes, yes, YES. Because through delay, distortion, and distraction....we can demagogue, demonize, and dissuade those who support the spirit of the law, but are confused by the details of the law--always and forever preventing any progress toward a satisfactory solution--in the neighborhood of "common good."

Because satisfactory solutions cost some ambulance-chasing types REAL money. Ami-right???
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Old 11-17-2013, 12:11 AM   #6
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Yes, yes, YES. Because through delay, distortion, and distraction....we can demagogue, demonize, and dissuade those who support the spirit of the law, but are confused by the details of the law--always and forever preventing any progress toward a satisfactory solution--in the neighborhood of "common good."

Because satisfactory solutions cost some ambulance-chasing types REAL money. Ami-right???
So, you cannot be a detractor of a policy that is so intrinsically flawed because it's supposed intent is to help people?
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Old 11-17-2013, 12:12 AM   #7
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Wasn't the infamous comment in response to a question about a pending Senate bill? She was asked about said Senate bill and she said it had to pass before she knew what was in it? Hmm?
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Old 11-17-2013, 12:13 AM   #8
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Wasn't the infamous comment in response to a question about a pending Senate bill? She was asked about said Senate bill and she said it had to pass before she knew what was in it? Hmm?
Probably racism again right Jay Cosmo?
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Old 11-17-2013, 12:15 AM   #9
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Wasn't the infamous comment in response to a question about a pending Senate bill? She was asked about said Senate bill and she said it had to pass before she knew what was in it? Hmm?
eh, what's a little context got to do with it?
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Old 11-17-2013, 12:21 AM   #10
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Probably racism again right Jay Cosmo?
Probably just right wingers believing whatever they read on deadbart.com. Or in one of your posts.
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:44 AM   #11
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Wasn't the infamous comment in response to a question about a pending Senate bill? She was asked about said Senate bill and she said it had to pass before she knew what was in it? Hmm?
Not quite. She said WE have to pass it so YOU can find out what's in it.

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They used a crowbar to jam this colossal lie down everyone's throats and now they are worried that people will vote them out of office for doing that. Not sure why they are so concerned they will just cheat their way back in anyway.
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:20 AM   #14
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Yes, yes, YES. Because through delay, distortion, and distraction....we can demagogue, demonize, and dissuade those who support the spirit of the law, but are confused by the details of the law--always and forever preventing any progress toward a satisfactory solution--in the neighborhood of "common good."

Because satisfactory solutions cost some ambulance-chasing types REAL money. Ami-right???
Hey Karl, I mean Kotter ! Did you raise your kids in regards to financial matters to just go ahead and sign a contract without reading it first and to automatically trust the person/persons across the table that these people will always have their best interest and that unless they sign first they won't know what they signed up for ????

Yeah, that's what I thought:roll eyes:

Even in your true devotion to Karl Marx, you still wouldn't teach and allow your kids to sign until all was read and all questions were answered.
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