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Old 11-21-2013, 09:19 AM  
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Deal with Afganistan? Seem no....state department shits on themselves again

Lurch strikes again, obamas record with other countries remains a zero . Karzai says he doesnt trust America and wont sign the deal the White House announced as a deal yesterday. Can this outfit embarrass themselves any more ?

In a surprise move, Afghan President Hamid Karzai appeared to pour cold water on the chances for an immediate security deal with the U.S., saying he doesn’t trust the U.S. and any agreement should wait until his successor his elected.

“The agreement should be signed when the election is conducted, properly and with dignity,” he told the Loya Jirga assembly he convened to help weigh the parameters of a deal, according to areport in the Wall Street Journal.

“There is mistrust between me and America. I don’t trust them, and they don’t trust me,” he continued after he shared the contents of a letter President Obama sent him Thursday morning.

The move comes just as both sides were reporting that they had finalized the language of the security agreement, ironing out all of their differences.

The deal is crucial for Pentagon and State Department planning because it would establish remaining U.S. troops levels after the 2014 drawdown has ended, as well as critical economic and military assistance.
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Old 11-26-2013, 01:19 PM   #2
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As Obama is outed as a liar by Iran, Karkai's throwing Obamas bullshit back in his lap. And this air headed wench Susan Rice doesn't understand it…..so totally ****ed.



National Security Adviser Susan Rice on Tuesday said the U.S. was surprised by Afghan President Hamid Karzai’s new conditions for signing a postwar security accord and that she was “sad and disappointed” by the delay.

“It was stuff we had not seen or heard before in some respects,” Rice said in an interview with Afghanistan’s Tolo TV.

“I must say that I was sad and disappointed that by the end of our meeting, it was clear that he is not yet prepared to sign that agreement promptly. I hope he will do so,” she added.

Rice’s comments came a day after she met with Karzai and urged him to sign the Bilateral Security Agreement, which will govern the role for U.S. military forces in Afghanistan after the NATO mission ends in 2014.
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Old 11-26-2013, 01:22 PM   #3
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“It was stuff we had not seen or heard before in some respects,” Rice said in an interview with Afghanistan’s Tolo TV.
So, another spontaneous protest, eh Susie?
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Old 11-26-2013, 01:24 PM   #4
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Lurch strikes again, obamas record with other countries remains a zero . Karzai says he doesnt trust America and wont sign the deal the White House announced as a deal yesterday. Can this outfit embarrass themselves any more ?

In a surprise move, Afghan President Hamid Karzai appeared to pour cold water on the chances for an immediate security deal with the U.S., saying he doesn’t trust the U.S. and any agreement should wait until his successor his elected.

“The agreement should be signed when the election is conducted, properly and with dignity,” he told the Loya Jirga assembly he convened to help weigh the parameters of a deal, according to areport in the Wall Street Journal.

“There is mistrust between me and America. I don’t trust them, and they don’t trust me,” he continued after he shared the contents of a letter President Obama sent him Thursday morning.

The move comes just as both sides were reporting that they had finalized the language of the security agreement, ironing out all of their differences.

The deal is crucial for Pentagon and State Department planning because it would establish remaining U.S. troops levels after the 2014 drawdown has ended, as well as critical economic and military assistance.

Putin punked them again?

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Old 11-26-2013, 01:58 PM   #5
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saying he doesn’t trust the U.S. and any agreement should wait until his successor his elected.
Ouch!

But what makes him think the successor will be better? Can't be worse? Not sure I'd take that bet...
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:47 PM   #6
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Lies always come back. His lies to America , then he lies to allies, and tells lies about things he agrees to with untrustworthy Muslims like Iran and the afgans. There is honor among liars but they dont respect when you lie about a peer. Obama is falling to his lowest level as he becomes desperate to feed his ego. He is like a rabid dog needing to bite and attack.
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:54 PM   #7
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No end to it. Is he a habitual liar? Is Obama mentally stable? Does he know when he lies? There is a world of study opportunity with Obama and his clan.

The Saudis today join in with. Afghans, Iran, Israel, and all of America as the victims of Obamas lies.

A senior advisor to the Saudi royal family has accused its Western allies of deceiving the oil rich kingdom in striking the nuclear accord with Iran and said Riyadh would follow an independent foreign policy.

Nawaf Obaid told a think tank meeting in London that Saudi Arabia was determined to pursue its own foreign and policy goals. Having in the past been reactive to events, the leading Sunni Muslim nation was determined to be pro-active in future.

Mr Obaid said that while Saudi Arabia knew that the US was talking directly to Iran through a channel in the Gulf state of Oman, Washington had not directly briefed its ally.

“We were lied to, things were hidden from us,” he said. “The problem is not with the deal struck in Geneva but how it was done.”

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Old 11-26-2013, 06:09 PM   #8
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No end to it. Is he a habitual liar? Is Obama mentally stable? Does he know when he lies? There is a world of study opportunity with Obama and his clan.

The Saudis today join in with. Afghans, Iran, Israel, and all of America as the victims of Obamas lies.

A senior advisor to the Saudi royal family has accused its Western allies of deceiving the oil rich kingdom in striking the nuclear accord with Iran and said Riyadh would follow an independent foreign policy.

Nawaf Obaid told a think tank meeting in London that Saudi Arabia was determined to pursue its own foreign and policy goals. Having in the past been reactive to events, the leading Sunni Muslim nation was determined to be pro-active in future.

Mr Obaid said that while Saudi Arabia knew that the US was talking directly to Iran through a channel in the Gulf state of Oman, Washington had not directly briefed its ally.

“We were lied to, things were hidden from us,” he said. “The problem is not with the deal struck in Geneva but how it was done.”

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Obama does what the Saudis (or some other country) wants: He's a weak puppet!

Obama doesn't do what the Saudis (or some other country) wants: He's a lying jerk!

/nutters
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:12 PM   #9
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Obama does what the Saudis (or some other country) wants: He's a weak puppet!

Obama doesn't do what the Saudis (or some other country) wants: He's a lying jerk!

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Come on now. It seems that Obama chose to have bilateral and secret meetings with the Iranians in Oman. He then apparently chose to lie to our allies when asked about it, even though they already knew. Did Kennedy have a right to pissed when the Soviet ambassador lied to his face about Cuba?
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:17 PM   #10
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Come on now. It seems that Obama chose to have bilateral and secret meetings with the Iranians in Oman. He then apparently chose to lie to our allies when asked about it, even though they already knew. Did Kennedy have a right to pissed when the Soviet ambassador lied to his face about Cuba?
Based on what?

These "nutters" have suddenly decided to take the word of places like Iran. Saudi sheiks. They express admiration for Vladimir Putin. These are not serious, credible people. They are ready to nitpick at anything no matter how tiny. This is what I mock.
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:20 PM   #11
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As Obama is outed as a liar by Iran, Karkai's throwing Obamas bullshit back in his lap. And this air headed wench Susan Rice doesn't understand it…..so totally ****ed.



National Security Adviser Susan Rice on Tuesday said the U.S. was surprised by Afghan President Hamid Karzai’s new conditions for signing a postwar security accord and that she was “sad and disappointed” by the delay.

“It was stuff we had not seen or heard before in some respects,” Rice said in an interview with Afghanistan’s Tolo TV.

“I must say that I was sad and disappointed that by the end of our meeting, it was clear that he is not yet prepared to sign that agreement promptly. I hope he will do so,” she added.

Rice’s comments came a day after she met with Karzai and urged him to sign the Bilateral Security Agreement, which will govern the role for U.S. military forces in Afghanistan after the NATO mission ends in 2014.
She talks smarts!!!!!!
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Obama is a joke everywhere in the world except to his loyal minion followers that are waiting on his handouts.

Dangerous times my friends. Hope we can make it through the rest of his term without too much damage. Republicans definitely need to maintain control of the house and hopefully gain control senate to stop some of the damage. If the Democrats gain total control of congress with Obama as President then I fear some very dark times ahead for this country and the stability of the world.
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:27 PM   #13
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No end to it. Is he a habitual liar? Is Obama mentally stable? Does he know when he lies? There is a world of study opportunity with Obama and his clan.

The Saudis today join in with. Afghans, Iran, Israel, and all of America as the victims of Obamas lies.

A senior advisor to the Saudi royal family has accused its Western allies of deceiving the oil rich kingdom in striking the nuclear accord with Iran and said Riyadh would follow an independent foreign policy.

Nawaf Obaid told a think tank meeting in London that Saudi Arabia was determined to pursue its own foreign and policy goals. Having in the past been reactive to events, the leading Sunni Muslim nation was determined to be pro-active in future.

Mr Obaid said that while Saudi Arabia knew that the US was talking directly to Iran through a channel in the Gulf state of Oman, Washington had not directly briefed its ally.

“We were lied to, things were hidden from us,” he said. “The problem is not with the deal struck in Geneva but how it was done.”

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You repubs love to suck off the saudis, don't you? Never mind their country is a terrorist incubator and they're just savages with money.
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Based on what?

These "nutters" have suddenly decided to take the word of places like Iran. Saudi sheiks. They express admiration for Vladimir Putin. These are not serious, credible people. They are ready to nitpick at anything no matter how tiny. This is what I mock.
Yes.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...n-its-own.html



A senior advisor to the Saudi royal family has accused its Western allies of deceiving the oil rich kingdom in striking the nuclear accord with Iran and said Riyadh would follow an independent foreign policy.

Nawaf Obaid told a think tank meeting in London that Saudi Arabia was determined to pursue its own foreign and policy goals. Having in the past been reactive to events, the leading Sunni Muslim nation was determined to be pro-active in future.

Mr Obaid said that while Saudi Arabia knew that the US was talking directly to Iran through a channel in the Gulf state of Oman, Washington had not directly briefed its ally.

"We were lied to, things were hidden from us," he said. "The problem is not with the deal struck in Geneva but how it was done."
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:36 PM   #15
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Yes.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...n-its-own.html



A senior advisor to the Saudi royal family has accused its Western allies of deceiving the oil rich kingdom in striking the nuclear accord with Iran and said Riyadh would follow an independent foreign policy.

Nawaf Obaid told a think tank meeting in London that Saudi Arabia was determined to pursue its own foreign and policy goals. Having in the past been reactive to events, the leading Sunni Muslim nation was determined to be pro-active in future.

Mr Obaid said that while Saudi Arabia knew that the US was talking directly to Iran through a channel in the Gulf state of Oman, Washington had not directly briefed its ally.

"We were lied to, things were hidden from us," he said. "The problem is not with the deal struck in Geneva but how it was done."
"Yes" what?

An advisor to the royal family said something. Why is his word gospel?
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