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Old 11-21-2013, 08:19 AM  
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Deal with Afganistan? Seem no....state department shits on themselves again

Lurch strikes again, obamas record with other countries remains a zero . Karzai says he doesnt trust America and wont sign the deal the White House announced as a deal yesterday. Can this outfit embarrass themselves any more ?

In a surprise move, Afghan President Hamid Karzai appeared to pour cold water on the chances for an immediate security deal with the U.S., saying he doesn’t trust the U.S. and any agreement should wait until his successor his elected.

“The agreement should be signed when the election is conducted, properly and with dignity,” he told the Loya Jirga assembly he convened to help weigh the parameters of a deal, according to areport in the Wall Street Journal.

“There is mistrust between me and America. I don’t trust them, and they don’t trust me,” he continued after he shared the contents of a letter President Obama sent him Thursday morning.

The move comes just as both sides were reporting that they had finalized the language of the security agreement, ironing out all of their differences.

The deal is crucial for Pentagon and State Department planning because it would establish remaining U.S. troops levels after the 2014 drawdown has ended, as well as critical economic and military assistance.
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Old 11-26-2013, 05:39 PM   #16
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"Yes" what?

An advisor to the royal family said something. Why is his word gospel?
If a member of the royal family said the same thing, what would your reaction be?
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:10 PM   #17
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If a member of the royal family said the same thing, what would your reaction be?
That he is going to say things that benefit himself and appeal to his citizens. Anti-US rhetoric is quite popular.
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:16 PM   #18
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That he is going to say things that benefit himself and appeal to his citizens. Anti-US rhetoric is quite popular.
Are you of the opinion that the Obama administration is above keeping our allies in the dark or lying to them?
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:44 PM   #19
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Are you of the opinion that the Obama administration is above keeping our allies in the dark or lying to them?
No. But I'm sure not going to take the word of Saudi Arabia's royal advisor when he criticizes the US.
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:06 PM   #20
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No. But I'm sure not going to take the word of Saudi Arabia's royal advisor when he criticizes the US.
Let us know when obamadotlickhissack.gov does. Ok?
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:14 PM   #21
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No. But I'm sure not going to take the word of Saudi Arabia's royal advisor when he criticizes the US.
Why should we give a shit about the Royal family? Can someone please tell me why the USA needs Saudia Arabia? That we should care or bow to their political views?
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:28 PM   #22
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No. But I'm sure not going to take the word of Saudi Arabia's royal advisor when he criticizes the US.
Can you think of a logical reason why he would criticize us per these events?
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:54 PM   #23
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Why should we give a shit about the Royal family? Can someone please tell me why the USA needs Saudia Arabia? That we should care or bow to their political views?
Yep. I said before--if Obama does something another country wants, the nuts say he's a weak puppet. If a country says something critical, then he's an asshole who ****s over our allies. The nuts have all bases covered.
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:56 PM   #24
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Can you think of a logical reason why he would criticize us per these events?
They want us to bomb Iran for them. Short of that, they're disgruntled.
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:01 PM   #25
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Why should we give a shit about the Royal family? Can someone please tell me why the USA needs Saudia Arabia? That we should care or bow to their political views?
Maybe before the chimp in charge pisses of SA he should maybe first lock in the resources they have to offer that we use. Like the Keystone pipeline.

Obama is an idiot.
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:10 PM   #26
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Maybe before the chimp in charge pisses of SA he should maybe first lock in the resources they have to offer that we use. Like the Keystone pipeline.

Obama is an idiot.
Dude, they have nothing we want that is worth us bowing to their political will. They wanted us to go to war with Libya, Syria and Iran. **** them.

They just don't matter anymore. They need their oil money to keep their population in line. They pose no threat to us. Our friends could easily increase production if they stopped selling oil to us.
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They want us to bomb Iran for them. Short of that, they're disgruntled.
I don' think even Obama is a weak enough POTUS to be led that far. Really?
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I don' think even Obama is a weak enough POTUS to be led that far. Really?
Cosmo has a point. He stands up to them he is pissing off an ally. He does anything else he's an appeaser.
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Cosmo has a point. He stands up to them he is pissing off an ally. He does anything else he's an appeaser.
The Kingdom just doesn't want Iran to become nuclear-armed. They don't really give a **** about anything else, sans shutting down the Strait.
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The Kingdom just doesn't want Iran to become nuclear-armed..
You really are an uneducated dude.

They made several public statements that we should invade Libya and Syria. Make that numerous statements. But all they want is not to have a nuclear Iran.

All this has nothing to do with them wanting us to fight their battles for them in the Sunni vs. Shiite war?
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