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Old 11-21-2013, 11:34 AM  
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Nuclear option by Reid

I know why he is doing this but I cannot see this being good for democrats. Its as if he and Obama will watch the majority crash and burn as long as Obama gets his way till midterms. Or maybe they have the numbers that show the Rs will have House and Sennate after midterms and they only have a year to do all the damage they can.
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:06 PM   #61
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I'd venture to say anyone nominated to be a judge by the two dumbest moronic lying attorneys in Obama and Holder should be filibustered.

That being said, a system that isn't working shouldn't be totally broken.

Obama could have easily gotten past this by making a deal with republicans. You pick half and I pick half. But we all know with Obama it's all about him so dealing with republicans is automatically out. Obama is the most Imperialistic president of all time.

Democrats opened up Pandora's box here and will only lead to more partisanship.
Its time. I say let it fly. This will just lead to greater division and who knows where it will lead.
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:23 PM   #62
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Do I KNOW, first hand. No. Have I read reports showing that these vacancies don't need to be filled but many need to simply go away? yes I have.

You are correct that the blocking is just partisan politics as usual... I am simply saying that now that we find ourselves here (regardless of reason) we may want to look at the big picture and whether these positions actually NEED to all be filled.
Geeez, BEP, thanks for the info.

And it's npt partisan politics as usual--it is partisan politics on steroids. The sheer # of filibusters is pretty amazing. And, like I said, I don't hear any Rs claiming 'too many judges' is the problem.
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:25 PM   #63
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I'd venture to say anyone nominated to be a judge by the two dumbest moronic lying attorneys in Obama and Holder should be filibustered.

That being said, a system that isn't working shouldn't be totally broken.

Obama could have easily gotten past this by making a deal with republicans. You pick half and I pick half. But we all know with Obama it's all about him so dealing with republicans is automatically out. Obama is the most Imperialistic president of all time.
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:36 PM   #64
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Yeah I didn't ever believe someone like you would understand compromise. I mean if we were actually facing a real problem.
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:28 PM   #65
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No politician in the nation would split half of their nominees with the opposition.
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:28 PM   #66
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So when tbe tables were turned both sides had a different story...both sides~
No, not both sides. The Republicans never actually changed the rules. They realized it was bad for the Senate as an institution.
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:39 PM   #67
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No politician in the nation would split half of their nominees with the opposition.
If there was a real crisis facing a true Patriot they would. But no, instead we have in front of us a morally corrupt party and president that sees the writing on the wall and plays the biggest stupid card ever played. Never mind they have no problem flat out lying to the public for political gain just to push forward their agenda.

In one split second they have decided their ideology is more important than democracy. This goes way deeper than just federal judges.
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:58 PM   #68
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If there was a real crisis facing a true Patriot they would. But no, instead we have in front of us a morally corrupt party and president that sees the writing on the wall and plays the biggest stupid card ever played. Never mind they have no problem flat out lying to the public for political gain just to push forward their agenda.

In one split second they have decided their ideology is more important than democracy. This goes way deeper than just federal judges.

So so true.
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Old 11-21-2013, 08:19 PM   #69
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All part of the master plan of the Dems.

Make everyone dependent on the government, get those people to vote even if they are not supposed to, take away free speech, BOOM one party.
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Old 11-21-2013, 08:22 PM   #70
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Funny watching Fox play these clips of Dems back when they were in the minority crying about killing the fily. From Biden to Reid to Clinton to Obama....

This is nothing more than an attempt to distract from Obamacare and shove their agenda through before they get ass stomped at the polls next year
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Old 11-21-2013, 08:25 PM   #71
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3. Didn't Boehner just unilaterally pass a House resolution so that only he could call for a vote, which could have ended the shutdown? This is nuclear, but not without a buildup.
I'm pretty sure the answer to this one is no.
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Do you? What we know is that there are vacancies that common sense says should be filled. Have the Rs protested the appointments for the reason of "there are too many judges?" No, they are blocking for the sake of blocking, and the outrageous rate they are doing so speaks for itself.
When it speaks for itself does it tell you that Republicans are big meanies who just want to say no or that Barack Obama isn't working as hard as previous Presidents to nominate people acceptable by at least a handful of Senators from the other party? Because it's not clear to me so I'm inclined to think that it doesn't really speak for itself.
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One party unilaterally gave us Obamacare. Why wouldn't we want that same party unilaterally forcing their judges of choice on us?
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I'm pretty sure the answer to this one is no.
It's House Resolution 368, passed on October 1.
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Yeah I didn't ever believe someone like you would understand compromise. I mean if we were actually facing a real problem.
Yeah, maybe just give the other party their choice of Supreme Court nominee. Why not let them pick the cabinet?
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