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Old 11-23-2013, 08:25 PM  
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Deal reached on Iranian nuclear program

DEVELOPING: A deal between six world powers and Iran has been struck, Fox News confirms.

Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif said, `'Yes, we have a deal," as he walked past reporters crowding the hotel lobby where marathon negotiations had taken place over the past five days.

Asked if there was a deal, French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said `'Yes" and gave a thumbs up sign.

The goal had been to hammer out an agreement to freeze Iran's nuclear program for six months, while offering the Iranians limited relief from crippling economic sanctions. If the interim deal holds, the parties will negotiate final-stage agreements to ensure Iran does not build nuclear weapons.

The deal came after the personal intervention by Secretary of State John Kerry and other foreign ministers whose presence had raised hopes for a breakthrough.

Diplomats refused to spell out details of the talks, which dragged on past midnight and into early Sunday.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/11...clear-program/
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Old 11-25-2013, 10:49 AM   #61
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I don't think cosmo would disagree with the idea that the Jews of the middle east committed acts of terrorism during the years leading up to the birth of Israel. I know I don't. But I do disagree with the idea that Israel's formation was by theft and murder as if it was a one-sided affair. There was plenty of violence going both ways and when the defacto sovereign decided to grant independence in the form of two nation states (Jewish Israel and an Arab state), it was the Arabs who were unwilling to accept those terms and decided to opt for war instead. Israel's actions, e.g. driving Arabs out of their homes, were reactions to that core fact.

Since that time, Israel has shown again and again that they're willing to live in peace but certain groups of Arabs repeatedly demonstrate that they aren't interested in peaceful coexistence.
I wouldn't disagree--In general, it is always ridiculous to say that not one single person of a large group never did anything wrong. However, that doesn't make the whole group guilty or mean a generalization is accurate.

In addition to much of the private land simply being bought from the owners, much of the land was British govt-owned. People living there were basically renters.
Many left simply because they didn't want to live in Israel, and many left because Israel was immediately invaded and people didn't want to live in a war zone. Some people later made claims on abandoned property and Israel compensated them.

I'll also add how nice it was of their Arab brothers not to allow them into their countries.
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Old 11-25-2013, 10:56 AM   #62
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I wouldn't disagree--In general, it is always ridiculous to say that not one single person of a large group never did anything wrong. However, that doesn't make the whole group guilty or mean a generalization is accurate.

In addition to much of the private land simply being bought from the owners, much of the land was British govt-owned. People living there were basically renters.
Many left simply because they didn't want to live in Israel, and many left because Israel was immediately invaded and people didn't want to live in a war zone. Some people later made claims on abandoned property and Israel compensated them.

I'll also add how nice it was of their Arab brothers not to allow them into their countries.
I couldn't agree more.
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Old 11-25-2013, 11:22 AM   #63
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No no that isnt enough , I want you to deal with the Origins of Zionism in the latter 1800s and fully account for how those interests were funded and how large a role this Political Party had in the Whole affair of making Israel Israel . And I want an acknowledgement that what I implied is that I have read articles not written by Duke or Nat that claim Hitler was on board with the Political Zionists and the formation of Israel . The fact that so many Jews worked for Hitler kinda sustains this notion. So does the fact that the Jewish bankers have been funding both sides of the people fighting wars for some time now. Why did all the immigrants move from Europe to the US since the 1800s just to keep it simple. Were these wars and conflicts and expansion designed in part to make immigrating necessary ? I would suggest the movement of peoples around the globe is a very calculated Agenda and has been since Andrew Jackson . As far as I am concerned it is tantamount for Jews to chose whether or not they support the Ziomnist Ideal and how it has used the Bible for its own Agenda not YHWHs.

I feel the same way about the US and people who feel dedicated to the Masonic Ideals set up since Jackson became president . It is clear Jackson and the people supporting him took over the Masons and built the Washington Monument and the Statue of Liberty to bring the masses to the US and to breed them like stock animals and for the President Baphomet in the White House to channel damned entities into Satanic unions of man and wife. Not everyone bought into it seeing the field has been sown with good seed and then Jackson came along and the Devil started sowing his own seed into the fabric of the US in earnest. DC was made for Baphomet to sit enthroned. DC is a masonic cathedral city to dedicated to Satan.

Christian Masons need to separate themselves from the Satanic Masons and build a new Capital in MO. That is what will happen when Jesus Christ Returns. The Mormons aren't totally off base.
See, here's the thing--you are a moron.
I could give you a fact-based history lesson, but I don't think there's any point. Most people on here won't admit to being wrong, but I like to think that some of what I say gets through and they learned something, even if they won't admit it.

You, however, are so far detached from reality living your world of demons and flutes and fire lakes and torture for non-believers, that I know nothing will get through. You're a freak show.
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Old 11-25-2013, 11:26 AM   #64
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Old 11-25-2013, 01:54 PM   #65
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It wasn't seized by force. You are truly detached from reality. Of course, after palestinians rejected land for their own country, Israel was attacked on all sides, and several times after as well. Land from the 1948 formation was not taken by force. And they have never been the aggressor for land or anything else. The "occupied territories" are such because of attacks on Israel. Aside from the land returned to Egypt after the peace treaty, every time Israel pulls back, they get attacked. You're a ****ing moron.
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Old 11-25-2013, 02:21 PM   #66
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Right just like they aren't taking land and homes from people since they retook Jerusalem and the Temple mount. Just like they aren't cutting down really old Olive groves . People write history to lean towards a bias. No way did the people living in what is now Israel prior to being occupied by the British and then becoming Israel get a fair shake. The blood screams out and when push comes to shove that is what it is all about . Blood Guilt. I know the score and can read all the accounts ad nauseum and I still have to listen to the blood screaming from the ground. My guess is folks who cant here it and live in the US are more thank likely deaf to the cries of the blood spilt here in the US in the 1800s.
Why do you worry so much about Native Americans? Their God is not our God. They worship false idols. Their eradication is God's way.

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Old 11-25-2013, 03:27 PM   #68
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Further corruption from you, deceiver.
Thats not true at all. My kid is Native American on her moms side. All of them (& they are a huge Sioux family) go to church every Sunday. They also go to pow-wows & are very involved in the Ponca tribe.
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We need a new thread and I don't think you folks are really looking at the big picture here. These nuts in Israel want to rebuild the temple which would in fact be a move to centralize power globally under the auspice of religion. Jesus came to remove the need for a temple and blood sacrifices. Ironically many liberal who support Israel are supporting something that they have no idea what it implies.
You need a new thread to talk about religion? The others aren't enough?
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Jesus came to remove the need for a temple and blood sacrifices.
100% truth. He shed his blood as the ultimate sacrifice.
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Thats not true at all. My kid is Native American on her moms side. All of them (& they are a huge Sioux family) go to church every Sunday. They also go to pow-wows & are very involved in the Ponca tribe.
That may be true today, but we're talking about Natives from early America, who did not worship our Lord. They worshiped False idols and were dealt with accordingly. All part of God's plan.
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We need a new thread and I don't think you folks are really looking at the big picture here. These nuts in Israel want to rebuild the temple which would in fact be a move to centralize power globally under the auspice of religion. Jesus came to remove the need for a temple and blood sacrifices. Ironically many liberal who support Israel are supporting something that they have no idea what it implies.
I've heard enough from you, deceiver. The lies you spit come from the sharp tongue of evil.
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That may be true today, but we're talking about Natives from early America, who did not worship our Lord. They worshiped False idols and were dealt with accordingly. All part of God's plan.
Yes many a bible thump-er floated on over & spreed the word of god through out Native America.
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It's my observation the KJV was the weapon of choice when ti came to justifying killing savages. Something about that ol KJV that really stirrs up the need to kill . Red letter and all.
Now Chris, lets be honest. There were just as many NA's with blood lust. And there were many wonderful God Fearing Christians who went west with peaceful intentions and who reached out to the NA's. Many good things were shared both sides. You know that.
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Some of what you are implying is true, otherwise there wouldn't be any NA left. Otherwise , as far as I can see , the US Gub finally got to the place where they started opening the flood gates to immigration all over again .... and the NA still rot. Some up in Canada have come to realize they have to bring in new blood and ask foreigners to rebuild the language and culture with them . That's a far cry from casinos and the likes. Now HCF I am a professional shit stirrer , and I can assure you if enough people showed interest in helping NA revitalize .... DC and the Globalists would do everything in their power to prevent it . Thats why YHWH has kept them on the back burner until the Second Coming . Thats one mess this system of government we have cant fix . NA are going to have to meet up with outsiders half way to salvage what is left. That will take some real TLC.
Ive spent a lot of time on reservations, or in Canada they are called reserves. Lets again be honest….NA people have taken almost no responsibility to improve the situation they are in. Especially plains tribes. The drug, booze, unemployment, education failures are huge. Yet the money is wasted, stolen, and misused by tribal leaders with no penalty.

You stir some good shit. Bt this is a place where NA people need to grow the **** up and dry out. Its sad as hell what has happened. Native people have such a different and wise perspective on culture.
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