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Hollywood film producer confirms he was Israeli spy

Arnon Milchan claims other big Hollywood names were connected to his covert affairs

Stories about Hollywood producer Arnon Milchan's alleged double life have been circulating for years.

Now, the Israeli businessman behind hits like "Pretty Woman," "Fight Club" and "L.A. Confidential" has finally come forth with a stunning admission - for years he served as an Israeli spy, buying arms on its behalf and boosting its alleged nuclear program.

In a far-reaching interview aired on Monday with Israel's Channel 2 TV's flagship investigative program "Uvda," Mr Milchan detailed a series of clandestine affairs in which he was involved and particularly how he helped purchase technologies Israel allegedly needed to operate nuclear bombs.

"I did it for my country and I'm proud of it," said Mr Milchan, who ran a successful fertilizer company in Israel before making it big in Hollywood.

Even there, he says he continued with his clandestine work while maintaining close ties with Israel's leadership.



According to an unauthorised biography published two years ago, Mr Milchan worked for Israel's now-defunct Bureau of Scientific Relations, known as Lekem, which worked to obtain information for secret defense programs. The bureau was disbanded in 1987 after it was implicated in the spying affair for which Jonathan Pollard, a civilian intelligence analyst for the US Navy, was sentenced to life in prison.

Mr Milchan also says other big Hollywood names were connected to his covert affairs.

"When I came to Hollywood I detached myself completely from my physical activities to dedicate myself to what I really wanted - filmmaking," he said. "(But) sometimes it gets mixed up."

The 68-year-old founded the New Regency film company and has produced more than 120 movies since the 1970s, working closely with directors such as Martin Scorsese, Roman Polanski, Sergio Leone and Oliver Stone. He forged an especially close relationship with Robert De Niro, who along with actors Russell Crowe and Ben Affleck, is featured in Uvda's broadcast.

"I had heard but I wasn't sure," De Niro said, of Mr Milchan's activities. "I did ask him once and he told me that he was an Israeli and of course he would do these things for his country."

Edited by Bonnie Malkin

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...raeli-spy.html
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:16 PM   #46
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I'm seeing bits and pieces of this debate between cosmos and chris. I have to honestly say, I've rarely met an American Jew to embrace Israel enthusiastically. The ones I know, think it should be a pluralistic state for everyone there. Israelis, who I have worked with and am currently are tend to be otherwise, but there are some mixed views.

I got curious about any polls or surveys to see if they confirm my observation. This is what I found: Evangelical Christians support Israel even more than American Jews at 85%. American Orthodox join them at 10%. ( This of course excludes the Neturei Karta - Orthodox Jews United Against Zionism www.nkusa.org/‎ because Zionism is considered a political and military movement that a spiritual/religious one. As such it violates the Torah. However they live in Haredi communities around the globe. So I don't know how many live here or if they're represented in that percent.)

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The whole breakdown is interesting. Pretty much what I saw, since most Jews I know are secular and many of them liberal/left.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-about-israel/
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:18 PM   #47
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listo--looks like we dodged a bullet on this one. At least for a while.
Oh he'll be back with it eventually. It will deserve its own thread.
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:27 PM   #48
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But to a person whose family and life is divided down the middle between two countries, it is a benediction.
A benediction, as in a blessing?

If so, tough shit. Pick a side.
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:29 PM   #49
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I have no idea, how you should approach chris.

Maybe, you could tell them that the only reason their Evangelical allies care about Israel is to perfect Jews aka convert to Christianity or rot in hell. That was pointed out to me by a Jewish American woman. I think it's Protestant Dispensationalism that believes that.

But I did see Ann Coulter mention perfecting Jews.
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I'm seeing bits and pieces of this debate between cosmos and chris. I have to honestly say, I've rarely met an American Jew to embrace Israel enthusiastically. The ones I know, think it should be a pluralistic state for everyone there. Israelis, who I have worked with and am currently are tend to be otherwise, but there are some mixed views.

I got curious about any polls or surveys to see if they confirm my observation. This is what I found: Evangelical Christians support Israel even more than American Jews at 85%. American Orthodox join them at 10%. ( This of course excludes the Neturei Karta - Orthodox Jews United Against Zionism www.nkusa.org/‎ because Zionism is considered a political and military movement that a spiritual/religious one. As such it violates the Torah. However they live in Haredi communities around the globe. So I don't know how many live here or if they're represented in that percent.)

The whole breakdown is interesting. Pretty much what I saw, since most Jews I know are secular and many of them liberal/left.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-about-israel/
Somewhat interesting, but it doesn't directly address what I said and somehow the article/poll missed a very basic question.

I said that 99% of Jews support Israel. By that, I mean an overwhelming %age support the existence of the state of Israel--people chris would call Zionists.

First, the poll appears to be limited to American Jews. Also, it asks questions about specific policies. No where does it simply ask: Israel--are you for or against its existence as a state?

Within Israel, there is much disagreement about various policies, just like in every country. Does that mean the Jewish population there is against Israel's existence? Obviously, you are against many US policies. I doubt that means you do not believe the US should exist.
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A new Declaration of Independence with a new mother nature taking over.
I'll pass. I like my country as it is, built upon the Constitution.
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It is? Could have fooled me these days.
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I have no idea, how you should approach chris.

Maybe, you could tell them that the only reason their Evangelical allies care about Israel is to perfect Jews aka convert to Christianity or rot in hell. That was pointed out to me by a Jewish American woman.

But I did see Ann Coulter mention perfecting Jews.
That is true.

The "dispute" (one of them) between chris and I is that he thinks it is unreasonable for me to say he hates Jews, when really, according to him, he really only hates 99% of Jews.
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It is? Could have fooled me these days.
The walls may rot and the roof may leak. A lot of the windows are broken. The foundation is as strong as ever.
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The walls may rot and the roof may leak. A lot of the windows are broken. The foundation is as strong as ever.
Okay, I'll leave you alone on that last sentence and allow you to believe it.
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She is old and they are abusing her. We need a new constitution and NA need to play a huge role in how things are run in the future and by that I mean all the sober minded elders and educated ones mixed or not that have the fortitude to do so . We need to get the UN and foreign investors out of this Continent and become self sufficient. I always figures it woudl start on the west coast . The LWnuts wanted to Secede but are too far gone from the Obamination to do much of anything. Its going to be up to a unified Jewish Christian congregation with all the intellectual and scientific giants here to start things up . The north side has always been the religious side of town. BTW Berkeley used to be known as the City of Churches.
Would this new Constitution you support by any chance include freedom of religion?
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Poor chris, Donger is playing his million question game.
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She is old and they are abusing her. We need a new constitution and NA need to play a huge role in how things are run in the future and by that I mean all the sober minded elders and educated ones mixed or not that have the fortitude to do so . We need to get the UN and foreign investors out of this Continent and become self sufficient. I always figures it woudl start on the west coast . The LWnuts wanted to Secede but are too far gone from the Obamination to do much of anything. Its going to be up to a unified Jewish Christian congregation with all the intellectual and scientific giants here to start things up . The north side has always been the religious side of town. BTW Berkeley used to be known as the City of Churches.
I would sooner allow a rabid wolverine to perform brain surgery than allow any of our current politicians to lay one finger on the USCON.
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Sure. It's a Jesus Torah state. So you are free to be a Christian or a Jew.
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Absolutely--any kind of Christianity you like!
Except for Catholic or any kind that might not send gays to hell.
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