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Old 11-27-2013, 11:04 AM  
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Question.

I had a very interesting discussion last night based off what the Pope said in his new paper, and I want to pose a hypothetical:

If you could end poverty in America right now for every single person in our country, with the push of a button, by capping the most a person could make at $100 million, would you do it?

I haven't done the math on that, but assume for the sake of the exercise that the math would work.

Also for the purposes of this exercise, assume this is feasible to accomplish. It's a magic button. I know the popular rebuttal will be "if we did that, billionaires would go elsewhere" -- however ask yourself if would you push the button if you were guaranteed that they wouldn't?

Why, or why not?
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:42 PM   #61
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You elevate yourself out of poverty with a job Moron. I suggest trying this for 1 year Direckshun. You may find that you like it,that you now feel more independent & no longer a slave to poverty.
true story, ya lazy welfare queen
Would you push the button, LS?
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:44 PM   #62
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What does keeping poverty in place accomplish? I've been asking, have yet to get an answer from you.
It's not about keeping it in place. Of course everyone would eliminate it if possible. Poverty will exist no matter what you do.
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:44 PM   #63
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Interesting.
The next questions though is how to determine who is really deserving of it. I would need to some qualification that is essentially "in poverty in good faith."
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:45 PM   #64
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Not NO, but HELL NO, because what you are proposing with your question is communism in a nutshell.
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:45 PM   #65
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Not to mention US poverty is still pretty good living these days.
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:53 PM   #66
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It's not about keeping it in place. Of course everyone would eliminate it if possible. Poverty will exist no matter what you do.
It's not about keeping it in place for you, not at all. I'm responding to tredadda.

I'm asking about the specific trade off here.

The responses are encouraging so far.
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:53 PM   #67
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The next questions though is how to determine who is really deserving of it. I would need to some qualification that is essentially "in poverty in good faith."
That qualification does not exist.

This magic button eliminates American poverty for all.
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:54 PM   #68
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Not NO, but HELL NO, because what you are proposing with your question is communism in a nutshell.
I'm proposing eliminating American poverty at zero cost to anybody except the .00001%, who would still be living far better than your wildest imaginations.

Still, no?
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:55 PM   #69
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Not to mention US poverty is still pretty good living these days.
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:55 PM   #70
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What does keeping poverty in place accomplish? I've been asking, have yet to get an answer from you.
I have answered yet you just aren't getting it. You assume again that by making no one poor everyone wins. That is not the case. There are people who are clearly struggling and in need and I am all for helping them. I am just not for taking from those who have earned and giving it to those who have no desire to better their lot in life. I am just blown away how much you are championing a failed ideaology.
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:56 PM   #71
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That qualification does not exist.

This magic button eliminates American poverty for all.
Okay so if everyone has their basic needs met, are they required to work?
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:56 PM   #72
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I have answered yet you just aren't getting it. You assume again that by making no one poor everyone wins.
Wrong.

I assuming that by making nobody poor, nobody's poor.

What's crazy is that you would refuse to do it unless there's something in it for you.
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:57 PM   #73
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Okay so if everyone has their basic needs met, are they required to work?
That is not a stipulation in the OP.
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:58 PM   #74
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That is not a stipulation in the OP.
I understand. We are assuming the button has been pushed. Are they required to work?
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I understand. We are assuming the button has been pushed. Are they required to work?
Well, that's my answer, really. They aren't required to work in pre-button America, and that condition would be unchanged in post-button America.
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