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Old 11-29-2013, 08:58 AM  
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I have avoided posting here because it has become so partisan. Usually if I do post here it is to comment on a non-partisan issue like gerrymandering, the filibuster, the electoral college etc. I will break that rule now.

Many of you know from when I was posting more often here that I am a Democrat. It is with great difficulty that I call for President Obama to resign. The government has simply gotten out of control. He has lost his ability to govern. Nothing will or can be done while Obama is President except perhaps in the area of foreign policy. Good or bad he has become a lighting rod. There is an impossible standard of having to overcome a 60% limit to pass anything in the Senate. There is also the standard in the House of needing to have a majority of Republicans behind a measure before it will come to a vote. One could argue that past Speakers, including Democrats, have set the same standard. They all allowed exceptions, Boehner does not.
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:38 PM   #46
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Not his fault but he should resign? How does this make sense?
The Republican minority leader said his main job was to make him a one term president. Who's fault is it that you have to 60 votes to do anything? Obama's? They are just as guilty. It takes two to compromise. They are both guilty of the gridlock.

The President should get to put whoever he wants in his cabinet. He owns their actions, not the Senate.

The Republicans want gridlock. Doing nothing is better than anything Obama wants to do.

How many Republican ideas has he proposed and then since Obama is for them now, they are against them.

And do you think for one second that anything would change if he resigned? If the Republicans ever get another President elected the Democrats will just pay back the Republicans. Not saying thats the way it should be or is "right" just the way I think it will be.
i have some doubts as to another republican winning the white house in my lifetime...

and it will only get worse as the demographics continue to sound the death knell of a national party...

can you imagine florida and texas becoming blue, blue for shit's sake?
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:44 PM   #47
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i have some doubts as to another republican winning the white house in my lifetime...

and it will only get worse as the demographics continue to sound the death knell of a national party...

can you imagine florida and texas becoming blue, blue for shit's sake?
I think Florida is blue barely now. And will remain blue due to the Hispanic vote and Republicans being dipshits to people in Florida.

I just don't see how Republicans can put together a demographic coalition to win a Presidential election. There is no demographic path to the Presidency.
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:48 PM   #48
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Many of you know from when I was posting more often here that I am a Democrat. It is with great difficulty that I call for President Obama to resign. The government has simply gotten out of control. He has lost his ability to govern. Nothing will or can be done while Obama is President except perhaps in the area of foreign policy. Good or bad he has become a lighting rod. There is an impossible standard of having to overcome a 60% limit to pass anything in the Senate. There is also the standard in the House of needing to have a majority of Republicans behind a measure before it will come to a vote. One could argue that past Speakers, including Democrats, have set the same standard. They all allowed exceptions, Boehner does not.
There have been several posts explaining why this whole post is ridiculous. Here's another--you say nothing will be done with Obama as Pres that he is a lightening rod.

Well, what would happen if he took your advice and resigned?
President Biden. Would that make things better? You really didn't think this through, if at all.
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:53 PM   #49
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Lied us into a war ring a bell? Used the Presidency and the office to spy on and act against political enemies? Tea Pot dome scandal? Blowjobs in the oval office, lying to a grand jury. Your hero Reagan sold arms that ended up in our enemies hands to finance a guerrilla war, The list goes on and on.

Obama has not had any major scandals on that level. Prespective is a good thing.
Benghazi. Arming Al Qaeda. Fast & Furious scandal. IRS scandal, which will be traced back to the white house. Illegal Campaign Donations. Solyndra, NextEra, Ener1, Solar Trust funding. An intentional refusal to enforce federal immigration laws. Intervention in Libya without congressional approval. Ending Welfare-to work laws that were passed by congress. Authorized drone strikes to kill US citizens abroad without due process with is a violation of the constitution.Illegally changing the law that he passed with Obamacare. Each time he has done this it's been an impeachable offense and an abuse of power. This list goes on.

Yes perspective is a good thing. No president in US history has had the quantity of scandals and gross violations of law than this president.
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:55 PM   #50
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Lied us into a war ring a bell? Used the Presidency and the office to spy on and act against political enemies? Tea Pot dome scandal? Blowjobs in the oval office, lying to a grand jury. Your hero Reagan sold arms that ended up in our enemies hands to finance a guerrilla war, The list goes on and on.

Obama has not had any major scandals on that level. Prespective is a good thing.
Your perspective is off a ton. Oblahbla has had tons of scandals, but Dumbocrats won't believe them, because Oblahbla, and the Dumbocrats own the lame stream media. Benghazi, IRS, NSA, Fast and Furious, bailing out green energy companies, who have since went bankrupt, and countless others. Not to mention the fact that nobody believes anything Oblahbla has to say anymore, after all of the lies he told about the ACA, which in itself is another travesty, and scandal. Your buddy Oblahbla has been selling arms to Al-Qaeda, so your line about Reagan is a bit off base. Oblahbla was stupid enough to provide/sell arms to someone that has more than likely used them against our soldiers. That in itself is enough for treason, and something the idiot BO should be hung for.
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:57 PM   #51
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Benghazi. Arming Al Qaeda. Fast & Furious scandal. IRS scandal, which will be traced back to the white house. Illegal Campaign Donations. Solyndra, NextEra, Ener1, Solar Trust funding. An intentional refusal to enforce federal immigration laws. Intervention in Libya without congressional approval. Ending Welfare-to work laws that were passed by congress. Authorized drone strikes to kill US citizens abroad without due process with is a violation of the constitution.Illegally changing the law that he passed with Obamacare. Each time he has done this it's been an impeachable offense and an abuse of power. This list goes on.

Yes perspective is a good thing. No president in US history has had the quantity of scandals and gross violations of law than this president.
I'm trying to figure out which bias leads your thinking: availability heuristic or confirmation.
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:58 PM   #52
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Your perspective is off a ton. Oblahbla has had tons of scandals, but Dumbocrats won't believe them, because Oblahbla, and the Dumbocrats own the lame stream media. Benghazi, IRS, NSA, Fast and Furious, bailing out green energy companies, who have since went bankrupt, and countless others. Not to mention the fact that nobody believes anything Oblahbla has to say anymore, after all of the lies he told about the ACA, which in itself is another travesty, and scandal. Your buddy Oblahbla has been selling arms to Al-Qaeda, so your line about Reagan is a bit off base. Oblahbla was stupid enough to provide/sell arms to someone that has more than likely used them against our soldiers. That in itself is enough for treason, and something the idiot BO should be hung for.
Thats harsh. Democrats are waking up in droves. No one knows it more than those up for reelection. The midterms will be a cleansing. Only the hard core will be left arounding the smoldering remains of the Obot failure.
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Benghazi. Arming Al Qaeda. Fast & Furious scandal. IRS scandal, which will be traced back to the white house. Illegal Campaign Donations. Solyndra, NextEra, Ener1, Solar Trust funding. An intentional refusal to enforce federal immigration laws. Intervention in Libya without congressional approval. Ending Welfare-to work laws that were passed by congress. Authorized drone strikes to kill US citizens abroad without due process with is a violation of the constitution.Illegally changing the law that he passed with Obamacare. Each time he has done this it's been an impeachable offense and an abuse of power. This list goes on.

Yes perspective is a good thing. No president in US history has had the quantity of scandals and gross violations of law than this president.
This list is pretty hilarious. I guess we've lowered the bar on what is a real "scandal" in the last few years.
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Lied us into a war ring a bell? Used the Presidency and the office to spy on and act against political enemies? Tea Pot dome scandal? Blowjobs in the oval office, lying to a grand jury. Your hero Reagan sold arms that ended up in our enemies hands to finance a guerrilla war, The list goes on and on.

Obama has not had any major scandals on that level. Prespective is a good thing.
So naive.
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Old 11-29-2013, 09:09 PM   #55
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This list is pretty hilarious. I guess we've lowered the bar on what is a real "scandal" in the last few years.
It's the Obama bar. If it appears on Fox news its way worse than watergate.
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It's the Obama bar. If it appears on Fox news its worse than watergate.
Jimmy Carter's grandson is running to be the next Governor of Georgia. He's thrilled that Obama came along to make the Carter name look good again, relatively speaking.
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So naive.
How do you know which Precidency I'm talking about lying us into war? It's happened so many times. Take your pick. For those who are unaware of how the Vietname was got escalated into a full fledged war, google Gulf of Tonkin.

Fast and Furious a major Presidential scandal...give me a break.
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How do you know which Precidency I'm talking about lying us into war? It's happened so many times. Take your pick. For those who are unaware of how the Vietname was got escalated into a full fledged war, google Gulf of Tonkin.

Fast and Furious a major Presidential scandal...give me a break.
wait a minute, that was under a democrat president...

are you suggesting that both parties have lied us into wars over the years?

blasphemy, blasphemy i say!
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How do you know which Precidency I'm talking about lying us into war? It's happened so many times. Take your pick. For those who are unaware of how the Vietname was got escalated into a full fledged war, google Gulf of Tonkin.

Fast and Furious a major Presidential scandal...give me a break.
fast and furious WAS a presidential scandal; didn't you know obama-devil personally arranged for and perpetrated arming the cartels in order to further his dastardly efforts to impose immigtation reform?
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fast and furious WAS a presidential scandal; didn't you know obama-devil personally arranged for and perpetrated arming the cartels in order to further his dastardly efforts to impose immigtation reform?
The actual execution of the operation was much dumber than your portrayal its detractors.
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