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Old 11-29-2013, 08:58 AM  
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I have avoided posting here because it has become so partisan. Usually if I do post here it is to comment on a non-partisan issue like gerrymandering, the filibuster, the electoral college etc. I will break that rule now.

Many of you know from when I was posting more often here that I am a Democrat. It is with great difficulty that I call for President Obama to resign. The government has simply gotten out of control. He has lost his ability to govern. Nothing will or can be done while Obama is President except perhaps in the area of foreign policy. Good or bad he has become a lighting rod. There is an impossible standard of having to overcome a 60% limit to pass anything in the Senate. There is also the standard in the House of needing to have a majority of Republicans behind a measure before it will come to a vote. One could argue that past Speakers, including Democrats, have set the same standard. They all allowed exceptions, Boehner does not.
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Old 11-30-2013, 09:07 AM   #76
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i have some doubts as to another republican winning the white house in my lifetime...

and it will only get worse as the demographics continue to sound the death knell of a national party...

can you imagine florida and texas becoming blue, blue for shit's sake?
I think you're delusional as to how much harm barry has done to business with his health care fiasco. And we've heard this before, a million times. History repeats itself.
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Old 11-30-2013, 09:45 AM   #77
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In this case that is best for all.

Obama has run his course. The trends are against him and the Democrat party. After the Obama years, Pelosi leadership and Harry Reid, nothing….not a thing they set out to do has worked. And it has taken a while for the moderates and conservative democrats to swallow hard and admit the experiment failed. Obama will always have the base of illegals, blacks, far left crazies, abortion supporters and a scattered nut here and there.

He needs to stay and finish the destruction of his reputation. Congress needs to ensure he is held in check and no more big deals are cut without very strong adult supervision.
You haven't seen the polling numbers for Republicans have you?
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Old 11-30-2013, 10:15 AM   #78
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It's interesting to see people say things like, "it's become too partisan" now that their guy is in office. That president I hated is gone and now I like the president, and coincidently I just don't like the tone of the discourse anymore...

It's not any more partisan than it was for the last decade or before. When your side is out of power and is playing defense, you're in favor of them playing defense. When your guy is in office, then you are not. It's called politics.

I guess if you are gullible enough to believe what Reid or McConnell say about how "now it's different", then... maybe you should reexamine the "us good them bad" lens you are viewing things through.

There is nothing new under the sun.
Filibusters up 100% from previous administration. No President has had a standard of needing 60 votes on every piece of legislation that comes. Least number of legislative bills passed by Congress in history, by a large margin. Nearly as many nominees blocked in this administration as have been blocked in the 224 year history of the presidency.

Anyone trying to claim this President hasn't gone through unparalleled obstruction is delusional. I am not saying that Republicans may not have policy differences with the President. Usually those can be worked out in short order. Its been personal. Mitt Romney first used the words failed policies in describing the administration eight days in. The Tea Party was formed 30 days in after months of planning. Republicans have put their tax pledge above the pledge they gave to be congressman. The Tea Party members do not believe in an ounce of compromise. Mitch McConnell said the number one job of the Senate was to make the President a one-term president. I thought the number one job of the Senate was to serve the American people.

It is different. This President has faced an unprecedented level of vitrol against him despite the fact that he has been able to get next to nothing passed. Its started from the day he was the presumptive nominee and has not died down. Birthers still don't believe he was born in Hawaii despite a birth certificate accepted by the Republican governor of the state. They say its not racial but we keep seeing Confederate flags and quotes by Ted Cruz saying he is still fighting the Civil War.

Its been ridiculous, and the only way to remove it is for Obama to give up.
He has done nothing. He will continue to not be able to get anything done.
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Old 11-30-2013, 10:40 AM   #79
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Filibusters up 100% from previous administration. No President has had a standard of needing 60 votes on every piece of legislation that comes. Least number of legislative bills passed by Congress in history, by a large margin. Nearly as many nominees blocked in this administration as have been blocked in the 224 year history of the presidency.

Anyone trying to claim this President hasn't gone through unparalleled obstruction is delusional. I am not saying that Republicans may not have policy differences with the President. Usually those can be worked out in short order. Its been personal. Mitt Romney first used the words failed policies in describing the administration eight days in. The Tea Party was formed 30 days in after months of planning. Republicans have put their tax pledge above the pledge they gave to be congressman. The Tea Party members do not believe in an ounce of compromise. Mitch McConnell said the number one job of the Senate was to make the President a one-term president. I thought the number one job of the Senate was to serve the American people.

It is different. This President has faced an unprecedented level of vitrol against him despite the fact that he has been able to get next to nothing passed. Its started from the day he was the presumptive nominee and has not died down. Birthers still don't believe he was born in Hawaii despite a birth certificate accepted by the Republican governor of the state. They say its not racial but we keep seeing Confederate flags and quotes by Ted Cruz saying he is still fighting the Civil War.

Its been ridiculous, and the only way to remove it is for Obama to give up.
He has done nothing. He will continue to not be able to get anything done.

Ahh the symbols.. The Rebel flag. signs of the redneck hate filled R's….Same as the ones seen every year since the Civil War. Its so easy to see the divide is not based on anything but the birthers, the Klan, the unwashed rural, rednecks and pickup driving dropouts. Its all there in front of us if we see it.
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Old 11-30-2013, 10:55 AM   #80
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Filibusters up 100% from previous administration. No President has had a standard of needing 60 votes on every piece of legislation that comes. Least number of legislative bills passed by Congress in history, by a large margin. Nearly as many nominees blocked in this administration as have been blocked in the 224 year history of the presidency.

Anyone trying to claim this President hasn't gone through unparalleled obstruction is delusional. I am not saying that Republicans may not have policy differences with the President. Usually those can be worked out in short order. Its been personal. Mitt Romney first used the words failed policies in describing the administration eight days in. The Tea Party was formed 30 days in after months of planning. Republicans have put their tax pledge above the pledge they gave to be congressman. The Tea Party members do not believe in an ounce of compromise. Mitch McConnell said the number one job of the Senate was to make the President a one-term president. I thought the number one job of the Senate was to serve the American people.

It is different. This President has faced an unprecedented level of vitrol against him despite the fact that he has been able to get next to nothing passed. Its started from the day he was the presumptive nominee and has not died down. Birthers still don't believe he was born in Hawaii despite a birth certificate accepted by the Republican governor of the state. They say its not racial but we keep seeing Confederate flags and quotes by Ted Cruz saying he is still fighting the Civil War.

Its been ridiculous, and the only way to remove it is for Obama to give up.
He has done nothing. He will continue to not be able to get anything done.
It probably doesn't help that this POTUS considers his opponents to be enemies. Obama made his bed.
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Old 11-30-2013, 10:56 AM   #81
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Filibusters up 100% from previous administration. No President has had a standard of needing 60 votes on every piece of legislation that comes. Least number of legislative bills passed by Congress in history, by a large margin. Nearly as many nominees blocked in this administration as have been blocked in the 224 year history of the presidency.

Anyone trying to claim this President hasn't gone through unparalleled obstruction is delusional. I am not saying that Republicans may not have policy differences with the President. Usually those can be worked out in short order. Its been personal. Mitt Romney first used the words failed policies in describing the administration eight days in. The Tea Party was formed 30 days in after months of planning. Republicans have put their tax pledge above the pledge they gave to be congressman. The Tea Party members do not believe in an ounce of compromise. Mitch McConnell said the number one job of the Senate was to make the President a one-term president. I thought the number one job of the Senate was to serve the American people.

It is different. This President has faced an unprecedented level of vitrol against him despite the fact that he has been able to get next to nothing passed. Its started from the day he was the presumptive nominee and has not died down. Birthers still don't believe he was born in Hawaii despite a birth certificate accepted by the Republican governor of the state. They say its not racial but we keep seeing Confederate flags and quotes by Ted Cruz saying he is still fighting the Civil War.

Its been ridiculous, and the only way to remove it is for Obama to give up.
He has done nothing. He will continue to not be able to get anything done.


You still trying to blame Repubs for the left's failures? I can't help but laugh because the libs/progs/dems have owned the culture and its influences since pretty much the 60's. Despite accumulating government power plus all the culture of influence, like the media, entertainment industry, academia, the education system, government (because these places are dominated by libs/progs/dems), despite accumulating all that power over the decades, you still can't get anything done but blame repubs . Oh they share some of the blame but they aren't the ones that have dominated the culture for so long.

I'll let you in on a little secret why it is failing and I've said this for some time. The statist agenda your side has brought to the table for decades, is much like a communist agenda, only an American version but statism always fails or leads to misery and destruction. History has proved that time and time again but humankind seems to fall for the same old failed statism. Much of that we are witnessing now. All your side has left is the blame game or continuing to double down on failure. Hopefully some of you will wake up before it is too late and avoid destroying this great country. I'm not holding my breath though because the culture is so deep in to statism now. It's just better to be prepared.

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Old 11-30-2013, 11:01 AM   #82
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I have avoided posting here because it has become so partisan. Usually if I do post here it is to comment on a non-partisan issue like gerrymandering, the filibuster, the electoral college etc. I will break that rule now.

Many of you know from when I was posting more often here that I am a Democrat. It is with great difficulty that I call for President Obama to resign. The government has simply gotten out of control. He has lost his ability to govern. Nothing will or can be done while Obama is President except perhaps in the area of foreign policy. Good or bad he has become a lighting rod. There is an impossible standard of having to overcome a 60% limit to pass anything in the Senate. There is also the standard in the House of needing to have a majority of Republicans behind a measure before it will come to a vote. One could argue that past Speakers, including Democrats, have set the same standard. They all allowed exceptions, Boehner does not.
Really?...."With great difficulty?"

I don't find it difficult at all. For someone who's considered to be a "constitutional scholar" (that's some ****ing irony in itself), he's found every which way possible to wipe his ass w/ it. The guy is nothing but a fraudulent liar who deserves to not only be impeached, but needs to be thrown in prison.

But at least you're admitting his failure as POTUS, and admitting you were tricked/fooled by his false "Hope and Change" rhetoric. Oh he's wanting to make changes alright. He's wanting to change the very foundations that made this country great.
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Why ridiculous? He cannot possibly get anything done?
Oh sure he could. But, it would help if he would be willing to compromise with the opposition.
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You haven't seen the polling numbers for Republicans have you?
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...pares_for.html

perhaps I did….
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The Tea Party members do not believe in an ounce of compromise, because no one with any brains left in the country wants all of the communist ideas of BO, and his followers to succeed. I thought the number one job of the Senate/House/President was to serve the American people.
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Filibusters up 100% from previous administration. No President has had a standard of needing 60 votes on every piece of legislation that comes. Least number of legislative bills passed by Congress in history, by a large margin. Nearly as many nominees blocked in this administration as have been blocked in the 224 year history of the presidency.

Anyone trying to claim this President hasn't gone through unparalleled obstruction is delusional. I am not saying that Republicans may not have policy differences with the President. Usually those can be worked out in short order. Its been personal. Mitt Romney first used the words failed policies in describing the administration eight days in. The Tea Party was formed 30 days in after months of planning. Republicans have put their tax pledge above the pledge they gave to be congressman. The Tea Party members do not believe in an ounce of compromise. Mitch McConnell said the number one job of the Senate was to make the President a one-term president. I thought the number one job of the Senate was to serve the American people.

It is different. This President has faced an unprecedented level of vitrol against him despite the fact that he has been able to get next to nothing passed. Its started from the day he was the presumptive nominee and has not died down. Birthers still don't believe he was born in Hawaii despite a birth certificate accepted by the Republican governor of the state. They say its not racial but we keep seeing Confederate flags and quotes by Ted Cruz saying he is still fighting the Civil War.

Its been ridiculous, and the only way to remove it is for Obama to give up.
He has done nothing. He will continue to not be able to get anything done.
Have you considered what he's tried to push through may be the biggest reason for the push back? The economy is a mess. People don't have jobs (no this hasn't gone away just no longer conveniently addressed) and he's imposed shitty health care on everyone that's costing everyone more when people have less money than ever in recent history. The national debt is outrageous and he's concerned with social matters.

He's the equivalent of worrying about the brass being polished on the sinking Titanic.

He's an idealist when this country needs a leader. If he was president when Bill Clinton took office he'd be a God sent but unfortunately for all of that's not the case. He's not what we need right now. When is the last time you heard him address the out of work? Yet he wants to allow millions of illegal immigrants who basically said "**** immigration laws" to join the almost non-existant work force.

Barry would be great in a happy, feel good movie. In real life, he sucks.
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Filibusters up 100% from previous administration. No President has had a standard of needing 60 votes on every piece of legislation that comes. Least number of legislative bills passed by Congress in history, by a large margin. Nearly as many nominees blocked in this administration as have been blocked in the 224 year history of the presidency.

Anyone trying to claim this President hasn't gone through unparalleled obstruction is delusional. I am not saying that Republicans may not have policy differences with the President. Usually those can be worked out in short order. Its been personal. Mitt Romney first used the words failed policies in describing the administration eight days in. The Tea Party was formed 30 days in after months of planning. Republicans have put their tax pledge above the pledge they gave to be congressman. The Tea Party members do not believe in an ounce of compromise. Mitch McConnell said the number one job of the Senate was to make the President a one-term president. I thought the number one job of the Senate was to serve the American people.

It is different. This President has faced an unprecedented level of vitrol against him despite the fact that he has been able to get next to nothing passed. Its started from the day he was the presumptive nominee and has not died down. Birthers still don't believe he was born in Hawaii despite a birth certificate accepted by the Republican governor of the state. They say its not racial but we keep seeing Confederate flags and quotes by Ted Cruz saying he is still fighting the Civil War.

Its been ridiculous, and the only way to remove it is for Obama to give up.
He has done nothing. He will continue to not be able to get anything done.
I find the standard of 60 votes to overcome a filibuster actually to low of a standard. I would rather say you need 75 votes (3/4s of the senate) to pass anything and 90 to overcome a filibuster. Obstructionism is not a bug in the system it is a feature. The Constitution set up the three branches to be inherently hostile towards each other. So, only the most important and critical things would pass.
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I think you're delusional as to how much harm barry has done to business with his health care fiasco. . .
How has it hurt your business or employer? Or, if it hasn't hurt your business or employer, what leads you to believe "business" has been so harmed by the ACA?
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When is the last time you heard him address the out of work? Yet he wants to allow millions of illegal immigrants who basically said "**** immigration laws" to join the almost non-existant work force.
Comprehensive immigration reform is significantly about filling jobs. Plus, the illegal immigrants here are not really lacking for work. They've already joined the work force, mostly in the agricultural and food industry.

It's not like 10 million people are waiting for a law to pass so they can, Yes!, finally get that dishwashing job they came for.
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Old 11-30-2013, 05:04 PM   #90
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We voted in Bush. Twice. If we want to blame someone for overreacting to 9/11 and driving our economy into the toilet, we should start by looking into a mirror.

Then we voted in Obama. Twice. We wanted an idealist to make us feel good, and we got it. Again with the mirror.

There are surprises, and there are things we can see coming. When a country's economy tanks, they vote in extremists, so get ready for that. When the income gap gets ridiculously wide, it ends with a depression, so save your money. Republicans do better in low-turnout elections, and midterms are notoriously low turnout, but when Democratic-leaning Catholic families with six or eight children each share a space with Republican-leaning Protestant families with one or two children each, it doesn't take long for the place to turn blue.

We're in trouble, as a country. The divisiveness is killing us, and the only way to survive it is to stop being divisive. Historically, the way that happens is by one party taking power. This message board is chock full of straight, middle-aged, middle-income, midwestern Republican blue-collar white male sports fans; I think you guys might want to steel yourselves for a long, cold political winter, as the Democrats will be in charge for a while - despite the s***ty economy they'll bring with them.
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