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Old 11-29-2013, 10:38 AM  
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WaPo….Give Obama a third term

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...809_story.html

As President Obama faces a small revolt within his own party, a Washington Post op-ed is calling for the United States to end presidential term limits and allow him to run again in 2016.

“Barack Obama should be allowed to stand for re election just as citizens should be allowed to vote for — or against — him,” writes New York University Jonathan Zimmerman professor of history and education. “Anything less diminishes our leaders and ourselves.”

Zimmerman argues that the president would enjoy more deference on such unpopular initiatives as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and the recent nuclear-arms deal with Iran if he had a legal opportunity to seek additional terms in office.
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:27 PM   #16
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You're eliminating one key element between what you said and what it said: election.

It said he should be able to run, it does not say give him a 3rd term.
You are as stupid as Cosmo and Brock. Go **** yourself with this bullshit. You know exactly what the guy said.
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:33 PM   #17
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Stupid ****er. Read.


" Barack Obama should be allowed to stand for re election just as citizens should be allowed to vote for — or against — him. Anything less diminishes our leaders and ourselves."
Stupid ****er. You read.
"allowed to stand for re-election" vs. "Give Obama a third term"

Dumb mother****er
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:35 PM   #18
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You are as stupid as Cosmo and Brock. Go **** yourself with this bullshit. You know exactly what the guy said.
You're completely ****ing wrong.
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:36 PM   #19
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It will never happen with this president thank god.

The left doesn't hold a super majority in both the Senate and the House. Nor do they have 34 states that would propose this.
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:37 PM   #20
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You are as stupid as Cosmo and Brock. Go **** yourself with this bullshit. You know exactly what the guy said.
How does "give Obama a third term"= "he should be able to stand and people can vote for or against him?"

Their argument (that you missed by a mile) is that presidential term limits diminish power and that by that limitation it removes the ability to get anything done. That's what intelligent people refer to as a thesis statement.
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:50 PM   #21
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How does "give Obama a third term"= "he should be able to stand and people can vote for or against him?"

Their argument (that you missed by a mile) is that presidential term limits diminish power and that by that limitation it removes the ability to get anything done. That's what intelligent people refer to as a thesis statement.
The only issue I have with this concept is that organizations such as the Washington Post only suggest it when a Dem is president. I wonder if they felt that way over a year into the second term of GWB.
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:52 PM   #22
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I love the phrase, "obey him". I wasn't aware that was the intent of the people re: the office.
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:58 PM   #23
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The only issue I have with this concept is that organizations such as the Washington Post only suggest it when a Dem is president. I wonder if they felt that way over a year into the second term of GWB.
I disagree with the view myself. In fact, I think there should be more term limits imposed.
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:59 PM   #24
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The only issue I have with this concept is that organizations such as the Washington Post only suggest it when a Dem is president. I wonder if they felt that way over a year into the second term of GWB.
The idea was mentioned when Reagan was POTUS. I believe it was mentioned again when Clinton was POTUS. I think of the last four two term POTUS's that Clinton had the only realistic possibility of winning a third term. I think Obama will be viewed by history in the same way that Bush2 is viewed. A partisan bag of shit that cobbled together enough special interests to pull it off twice in a row.
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You don't think Reagan beats Dukakis????
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You don't think Reagan beats Dukakis????
He was really getting up there in age and I think his approval was flagging a bit at the end.
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I looked at Reagan's wiki page. He was born in 1911 so he would have been 77 in 1988.
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I disagree with the view myself. In fact, I think there should be more term limits imposed.
Honestly that would be one of the best ways to fix government.
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The idea was mentioned when Reagan was POTUS. I believe it was mentioned again when Clinton was POTUS. I think of the last four two term POTUS's that Clinton had the only realistic possibility of winning a third term. I think Obama will be viewed by history in the same way that Bush2 is viewed. A partisan bag of shit that cobbled together enough special interests to pull it off twice in a row.
I stand corrected then. My apologies. Thanks.
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Honestly that would be one of the best ways to fix government.
It's not a panacea. Most things aren't. Best thing is for people to demand less from govt, imo.
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