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Old 11-29-2013, 12:34 PM  
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Old 11-29-2013, 07:02 PM   #46
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Until the Glass family officially opens the checkbook, it won't matter the GM, IMO.

Dayton seems to be superior to Baird, who was superior to Herk Robinson, so that's something.
This is true I suppose. Hard to compete in baseball with no money to spend unless you strike lightening.
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Old 11-29-2013, 07:11 PM   #47
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This is true I suppose. Hard to compete in baseball with no money to spend unless you strike lightening.
It's hard even if there is money available.

Funny how Theo Epstein was a genius in Boston yet in Chicago, he can't get anything right and is on his second manager.

I'd like to see the Royals as a consistent playoff team but my opinion is that Moore is an above average GM that is constantly under the microscope for each and every move because he has essentially zero margin for error to due ownership.
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Old 11-29-2013, 07:45 PM   #48
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:25 PM   #49
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:32 PM   #50
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Until the Glass family officially opens the checkbook, it won't matter the GM, IMO.

Dayton seems to be superior to Baird, who was superior to Herk Robinson, so that's something.
Ugh, freaking Herk. I still think he was the one responsible for putting an end to the Royals success.
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Old 11-29-2013, 09:01 PM   #51
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Old 11-29-2013, 09:04 PM   #52
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It's hard even if there is money available..
I just don't see money as the issue. Money will make it easier, cover up mistakes but no guarantees.
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Funny how Theo Epstein was a genius in Boston yet in Chicago, he can't get anything right and is on his second manager.
What the Royals need is the Cardinals way. Not just build via the draft but, develop those players so that they are ready when they reach the majors.

Teach the same thing in low A that you teach at the Big Show.

The Royals can defintely use the same approach the Cardinals have used. It's doable for the royals.
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Old 11-29-2013, 09:08 PM   #53
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I just don't see money as the issue. Money will make it easier, cover up mistakes but no guarantees.
What the Royals need is the Cardinals way. Not just build via the draft but, develop those players so that they are ready when they reach the majors.

Teach the same thing in low A that you teach at the Big Show.

The Royals can defintely use the same approach the Cardinals have used. It's doable for the royals.
Introduce 'Roids in A ball.. great plan.
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Old 11-29-2013, 09:39 PM   #54
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Introduce 'Roids in A ball.. great plan.
Don't be an idiot.

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2013 two wins from a WS championship

Best core group of players in the next 5 years according to Baseball prospectus.

It's not Roids, really, thats the reason?

It's a template for the Royals to follow.
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Old 11-29-2013, 09:45 PM   #55
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Don't be an idiot.

2011 WS Champs
2012 one win from a WS
2013 two wins from a WS championship

Best core group of players in the next 5 years according to Baseball prospectus.

It's not Roids, really, thats the reason?

It's a template for the Royals to follow.
Your franchise benefited from Steroids, it's ok, we know it, you know it, MLB knows it.
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Old 11-29-2013, 09:47 PM   #56
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Plus, it doesn't matter the owners of the Royals are born and bred St. Louis Cardinals fans, they have made it known they would rather the Cardinals succeed than the team they own. Probably a discussion for another day, but the Glasshole family intentionally drove the Royals into the ground so they could buy it on the cheap.
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Old 11-30-2013, 12:50 AM   #57
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I just don't see money as the issue. Money will make it easier, cover up mistakes but no guarantees.
What the Royals need is the Cardinals way. Not just build via the draft but, develop those players so that they are ready when they reach the majors.

Teach the same thing in low A that you teach at the Big Show.

The Royals can defintely use the same approach the Cardinals have used. It's doable for the royals.
Your views are overly simplistic.

Kansas City and the Royals ****ed up when they renovated the K. A downtown stadium should have been built, period. If they had, there would be far more money for the club because of fan support.

I'm sorry, but this isn't the 1980's. People have HDTV's and the Royals have a shit TV contract. KC is so spread out that the novelty of going to 80 games a year, without public transportation, wears off quickly for people living in JoCo or Blue Springs or Liberty, etc.

People that act as if there's a better qualified candidate just hanging around somewhere to deal with the Glass family, revenue issues, the farm system and the trials and tribulations of building a team, on a small budget, are smoking opium.

The Royals are not the Cardinals. Or the Red Sox, Yankees, Dodgers or Giants.
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Old 11-30-2013, 06:09 AM   #58
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Until the Glass family officially opens the checkbook, it won't matter the GM, IMO.

Dayton seems to be superior to Baird, who was superior to Herk Robinson, so that's something.
Yeah, until they hire Billy Beane this is all a moot point. DM has made better chicken salad with chicken shit than any of his predecessors to date. This falls on the kiss my glASS family.
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Old 11-30-2013, 06:49 AM   #59
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Your views are overly simplistic.

Kansas City and the Royals ****ed up when they renovated the K. A downtown stadium should have been built, period. If they had, there would be far more money for the club because of fan support.
Stadiums have proven to not be a cure for the financial woes of teams.
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I'm sorry, but this isn't the 1980's. People have HDTV's and the Royals have a shit TV contract. KC is so spread out that the novelty of going to 80 games a year, without public transportation, wears off quickly for people living in JoCo or Blue Springs or Liberty, etc..
Same issue down here in Florida. People have too much other things to do. They make excuses that they won't spend 30 minutes to drive to the stadium. etc.
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The Royals are not the Cardinals. Or the Red Sox, Yankees, Dodgers or Giants.
They were at one time and could be again.
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