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Old 12-03-2013, 12:21 PM  
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Jamaal Charles is best K.C. back ever?

Adam Teicher seem to think so....

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- This is probably overdue but I got to thinking about it after Jamaal Charles went over 1,000 rushing yards for the season in last week's loss to the Denver Broncos. That's four straight seasons for Charles with over 1,000 yards and though that's certainly not the only criteria, it's time to call Charles the best runner to ever play for the Kansas City Chiefs.

Charles is third all time on the Chiefs' rushing yardage list. He is roughly 500 yards from catching Priest Holmes and Larry Johnson, the two backs ahead of him. With a big finish, Charles could conceivably catch both players this season. If not, he will pass them in 2014.

Charles is well shy of both players in rushing touchdowns, but Holmes and Johnson at times played for Chiefs teams that were offensive machines. Charles' teams in Kansas City haven't been built that way and it's unfair to penalize him for that. Charles isn't the pass receiver that Holmes was. There was no sight for Chiefs fans like Holmes running with a screen pass behind the great blockers he played with (unless it was Holmes running the sweep behind the great blockers he played with). But strictly as a runner, I'll take Charles.

Two factors go into that decision. First is longetivity. Johnson essentially had two great seasons for the Chiefs, Holmes three. Charles is now at four and we're still counting.

The other is Charles' career per-carry rushing average. Charles has picked up slightly more than 5.5 yards every time he's rushed the ball for the Chiefs in his career and that's frequently against opposing defenses that were often lying in wait for him because the Chiefs gave them little else to worry about.

Holmes rushed for 4.59 yards per carry, Johnson 4.37. That's a significant dfference in Charles' favor.

Holmes and Johnson deserve to be part of the discussion. But with apologies to those guys and some other great Chiefs backs like Marcus Allen, Christian Okoye and Ed Podolak it's time (and probably past time) to hail the new king.

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Old 12-03-2013, 03:04 PM   #46
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Charles is the most talented RB we've ever had in KC. He'll go down as the GOAT before he's done here. Don't know that I'd crown him just yet, but it definitely a worthy debate.
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Old 12-03-2013, 03:06 PM   #47
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Old 12-03-2013, 03:06 PM   #48
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The OL that Holmes ran behind would have allowed me to run for over 1,000 yards. That Chiefs OL is in the discussion for best OL's of all time. Charles could break the rushing record behind that OL.

Charles is the best RB in Chiefs history. End of story.
If that were the case, Derrick Blaylock would have been better than he was. It was a great OL, but you're discounting what Holmes did way too much.
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Old 12-03-2013, 03:06 PM   #49
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Bah!

Put Charles behind the line that Priest had and he'd be averaging much more than 5.5 ypc.
This is why the greatest Chiefs running back of all time is....



























Tony Richardson.
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Barry Word has at least got to be in the conversation.
He can serve drinks while we converse about Priest and Jamaal.
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Old 12-03-2013, 03:09 PM   #51
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He's not even 27 yet. 4 more years of this and he's not only the greatest KC running back of all time, he's a hall of famer.
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Old 12-03-2013, 03:09 PM   #52
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If that were the case, Derrick Blaylock would have been better than he was. It was a great OL, but you're discounting what Holmes did way too much.
I remember Blaylock being pretty decent for a guy who could barely make a roster on any other team.
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He's not even 26 yet. 4 more years of this and he's not only the greatest KC running back of all time, he's a hall of famer.
He's almost 27 dude...
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Old 12-03-2013, 03:11 PM   #54
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He's almost 27 dude...
Typo.

Either way.
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He's not even 26 yet. 4 more years of this and he's not only the greatest KC running back of all time, he's a hall of famer.
Dude is already getting blisters on his feet from so much running. After another off season with the same coaching staff and players his numbers are going to be ridiculous.
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Old 12-03-2013, 03:12 PM   #56
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Typo.

Either way.
I knew you were off, but I got pretty excited at the thought of him being 25, so I had to check his B-day.
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Old 12-03-2013, 03:13 PM   #57
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I think Donnell Bennett should be in this discussion.
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Old 12-03-2013, 03:14 PM   #58
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On the other hand... What are the chances we have a legit #2 RB next year in Knile Davis? Take some carries off Jamaal.
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Old 12-03-2013, 03:16 PM   #59
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On the other hand... What are the chances we have a legit #2 RB next year in Knile Davis? Take some carries off Jamaal.
I think he's gonna be good , and Cyrus Gray if thrown into the #1 spot is also interesting.
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