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Old 12-11-2013, 12:31 AM  
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Do you think we have a crisis with income equality and/or economic mobility?

Both are currently at all time lows.

Do you believe we have a severe problem on this front, and what specifically do you believe is the solution to rectifying it?

I look forward to an illuminating thread.
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Old 12-11-2013, 07:57 PM   #76
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Are you referring to collectivism such as socialism/communism?
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Old 12-11-2013, 08:48 PM   #77
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Certainly yes to income inequality. Probably yes to economic mobility. Our economy is recovering from the 2009 crash, but still has some fundamental problems that out dysfunctional government is not very well addressing. These are two of them.

Historically, by the way, stretches of massive income inequality result in either massive economic depression or outright revolution or both. I think our system of government is strong enough that we're not beholden to this past pattern, but I think even moreso that if our leadership does not use our great system of government to do something about the inequality and stagnation, we will be beholden to the pattern, most likely in the form of a plunging depression.

So there you are. Your cheery thought for the day.
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Old 12-11-2013, 08:54 PM   #78
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Did you say something? Well, it doesn't matter, I'm on my way out to the sponge docks for some Greek food for lunch with some friends. c'ya!
I love Tarpon Springs greek food. Top notch stuff.
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Old 12-11-2013, 08:56 PM   #79
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Certainly yes to income inequality. Probably yes to economic mobility. Our economy is recovering from the 2009 crash, but still has some fundamental problems that out dysfunctional government is not very well addressing. These are two of them.

Historically, by the way, stretches of massive income inequality result in either massive economic depression or outright revolution or both. I think our system of government is strong enough that we're not beholden to this past pattern, but I think even moreso that if our leadership does not use our great system of government to do something about the inequality and stagnation, we will be beholden to the pattern, most likely in the form of a plunging depression.

So there you are. Your cheery thought for the day.
Spot on.

The widening of the income gap, the narrowing of the middle class and the rich getting richer will eventually create a tipping point.

If you can't see this as a threat to our Democracy, you are blind due to your political dogma.
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Old 12-11-2013, 08:57 PM   #80
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I love Tarpon Springs greek food. Top notch stuff.
Oh yeah! But I think this outdoor cafe changed its chef. The moussaka was quite mediocre. I make a better one and Little Greek does as well for a better price and comes with the Greek salad.
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Old 12-11-2013, 08:57 PM   #81
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Old 12-11-2013, 09:10 PM   #82
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We have economic inequality. It's not a problem. It just is.
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Old 12-11-2013, 09:18 PM   #83
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We have economic inequality. It's not a problem. It just is.
Not like this. We will always have economic inequality but if it continues on this curve there will be trouble.
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Old 12-11-2013, 09:23 PM   #84
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Not like this. We will always have economic inequality but if it continues on this curve there will be trouble.
What curve?
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Old 12-11-2013, 09:25 PM   #85
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Not like this. We will always have economic inequality but if it continues on this curve there will be trouble.
I think it's better to say there are a lot of people struggling. There are some millionaires that have taken some hits too. Some have even lost their businesses.
BTW even the sponge docks were empty when its usually full of people.

I don't like the equality argument.
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Not like this. We will always have economic inequality but if it continues on this curve there will be trouble.
Not from me. Not over something like this. If I ever start shooting people, I'll start with the socialists and work my way 'round to the plutocrats.
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I think a huge problem is that want has become the issue not need. Everybody wants the newest smart phone, video gaming system, in-style cloths and accessories. People use to take care or needs...living space, food basic clothes first...add in some savings and then if money is left over buy nicer things. Today's consumer feels a need to only have the best before considering the basic. While distribution may not be as fair as some would like...welcome to real life. A basic part of survival is living within means an art that has been lost by most American consumers.
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Not from me. Not over something like this. If I ever start shooting people, I'll start with the socialists and work my way 'round to the plutocrats.
dude, it won't be Bolsheviks at your door.
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dude, it won't be Bolsheviks at your door.
Menshiviks then?
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dude, it won't be Bolsheviks at your door.
Who do you fear is going to come knocking?
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