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Cooking with Splenda found to release cancer-causing dioxins in food

The long-term safety of the popular artificial sweetener Splenda (sucralose) has been called into question by a new review study published in the Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health. Researchers from the U.S. National Institutes of Health (NIH) discovered that sucralose essentially releases cancer-causing dioxins in food when baked or otherwise heated, which is one of its primary marketed uses.

Citing an earlier study published by researchers from the Department of Pharmacology at Duke University in North Carolina, the review challenges a number of claims made in support of Splenda's alleged safety, including the claim by its manufacturer, McNeil Nutritionals, that sucralose passes through the body completely undigested. Evidence shows not only that this is false but also that sucralose is hardly the innocuous substance that we have all been led to believe it is.

"The study asserts that in human and rodent studies sucralose was shown to alter levels of glucose, insulin and glucagon-like peptide 1 (GLP-1)," writes Laura Sesana for the Washington Times (WT). "The authors also warn that when sucralose is used for cooking at high temperatures it generates chloropropanols, a class of chemicals that may be linked to a higher risk of cancer."

Sucralose may be unsafe for people with diabetes; chemicals raise blood sugar, insulin
The blood sugar finding is particularly concerning, as Splenda is largely marketed to diabetics who have to watch their sugar intake. Many people who use Splenda or consume products that contain it typically do so because they believe it to be a healthier alternative to sugar, which is clearly not the case.

"Sucralose alters metabolic parameters and its chronic effects on body weight are unknown," reads the study, suggesting that the artificial sweetener may actually have diabetogenic properties, meaning it can actually cause diabetes.

Evidence suggests sucralose is more of a drug than a food additive
Sucralose was also found in the study to alter the expressions of P-glycoprotein and cytochrome P in a manner similar to organochlorine drugs. This would suggest that sucralose is actually more of a drug than it is a food additive, which means it has no business being indiscriminately added to food without a proper drug warning.

Long-term health consequences of sucralose metabolites unknown
The only reason why Splenda even made it on the artificial sweetener scene in the first place is because it was claimed at the time that sucralose passes through the body "unchanged." But this latest study proves based on urine and fecal analysis that sucralose produces toxic metabolites, especially when heated, that have unknown long-term effects on human health.

"One study showed that the stability of sucralose decreased as the temperature and pH increased, with the breakdown process commencing at 119 degrees Celsius and temperatures of 180 degrees Celsius causing its complete degradation at all pH levels with the release of chloride ions," writes Sayer Ji for BeforeItsNews.com about the dangers of heated Splenda.

Whatever sucralose is not metabolized by the body ends up passing through into sewers and eventually water treatment plants, where it accumulates and eventually gets released into the environment. This bio-accumulation threatens to not only taint rivers, streams and other water sources, but also contaminate fish and other animals.

"Because the body does not metabolize 85 percent of sucralose ingested, most of it ends up in sewage treatment systems," explains Sesana. "Sucralose is resistant to water treatments for the same reason that it is not easily broken down by the body, resulting in sucralose being released into surface waters."

Be sure to read Sesana's full report here:
http://communities.washingtontimes.c...d-environment/

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative...n-2840286.html

http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/sucr...leases-dioxin/

http://www.naturalnews.com/043206_Sp...xic_food.html#
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Old 12-12-2013, 10:10 AM   #136
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Old 12-12-2013, 10:11 AM   #137
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I'm beginning to think fish works for a big food company or even Monsanto.
Or he's a farm-raised fish who can talk and type courtesy of genetic engineering. Ya' know a pal for Dolly the sheep.
No dummy, I don't.

Truth be told if I had my way, Monsanto would be disbanded and the FDA would be completely overhauled. You mistake my criticism for your ignorance of chemistry to mean that I support these things. Work on that chemophobia and critical thinking...
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Old 12-12-2013, 10:15 AM   #138
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No dummy, I don't.

Truth be told if I had my way, Monsanto would be disbanded and the FDA would be completely overhauled. You mistake my criticism for your ignorance of chemistry to mean that I support these things. Work on that chemophobia and critical thinking...
Don't mind that. That's just her standard, final defense position when she's being schooled on a subject she's not qualified to argue or discuss.
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Old 12-12-2013, 10:54 AM   #139
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No dummy, I don't.
Then you're a farm raised fish.

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Truth be told if I had my way, Monsanto would be disbanded and the FDA would be completely overhauled. You mistake my criticism for your ignorance of chemistry to mean that I support these things. Work on that chemophobia and critical thinking...
You're ignorant about nutrition and the human body but can't admit it. Ignorance can be handled with more information. However, you weren't exactly clear when you mentioned chlorine either.

Back to this issue, no one can be expert in everything...it's just not possible. So we have to rely on experts for some things. I trust mine because they've gotten results. There's no arguing with results. Yet you tell me such experts are wrong. I assure you these folks do know chemistry. This is where division of labor comes in.

Then there's the kind of economy we live in where vested interests like to dominate the pie and will use govt to do so. That's a fact of life.
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Old 12-12-2013, 11:00 AM   #140
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What is it about mid-westerners being so anti natural health alternatives? Must be because they live in BIG FARMA with the prevalence of chemical farming. That's just another vested interest that doesn't like competition.
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So I went and checked what Quackwatch "claims" about Dr. Mercola.

Oh so he was making claims someone made illegal. So some of his claims
went against prevailing opinions of the cartelized medical establishment and public health organizations. BFD! People in natural healtcare don't really consider this anything as they don't believe the protected from market sources.

Smacks of a Dr. Semmelweis situation aka cultural lag as well as running up against the big profits and monopoly of other interests who DO NOT like competition. By competition I mean the rise in alternative therapies that question some of the "established" practices.

Yet, Dr. Mercola criticizes the China Study which vegans don't agree with.

In the meantime:
Courts Slaps FDA and FTC for Unjustified Attacks
"The FDA recently sent a warning letter to Diamond Food for making truthful, science-backed health claims about the omega-3 fats in walnuts. But because the research cited health claims that omega-3 fats in walnuts may prevent or protect against disease, the FDA said walnuts would be considered 'new drugs' and as such would require a new drug application to become FDA-approved.

Also, U.S. Federal Trade Commission (FTC) also suffered a loss in its efforts to hold Garden of Life, the marketer of various dietary supplements, in contempt of a previous consent order. ...the court ruled that the FTC had failed to prove that any of the challenged claims violated the consent order. It's a small win, but it could have major repercussions for other natural supplement makers who are being unjustly attacked by the FTC or another government agency."

As unbelievable as it sounds, current law makes it illegal for natural supplement and food producers to share accurate, science-based health information with you.[

Congressmen Jason Chaffetz (RUT) and Jared Polis (DCO) have introduced the Free Speech about Science Act (HR 1364), a landmark legislation that would allow the flow of legitimate scientific and educational information. The new bill provides a limited and carefully targeted change to FDA regulations so that manufacturers and producers may reference legitimate, peer-reviewed scientific studies without converting a natural food or dietary supplement into an "unapproved drug." ~ Dr. Mercola
I don't know if that bill passed as this was written a year ago.
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Old 12-12-2013, 11:42 AM   #142
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What is it about mid-westerners being so anti natural health alternatives? Must be because they live in BIG FARMA with the prevalence of chemical farming. That's just another vested interest that doesn't like competition.
Homeopathy is often misleading and can be dangerous. If it was as simple as being a different lifestyle choice, it wouldn't be that big of a deal. But there are very real dangers with it, and they prey on the ignorant and uninformed. They use shitty scare tactics and misinformation to push their products, and over 99% of the products are just useless junk or sometimes harmful junk. They know that people like you will read bullshit on the internet or be told bullshit by your chiropractor/shaman/witch doctor/part time accountant acquaintance, and spend money on a placebo and declare that actual medicine is poison and your herbal remedy cures all kinds of ailments. They know that you're dumb enough to rely on self diagnosis and self treatment using your own personal experiences, so they don't have to provide any proof that the product works.

And I know that you'll take that and somehow assume that by saying that, I'm hyperbolically admitting that everything Big Pharm must be great. But that's not the case either. Both have their respective problems. I'm not a fan of either, but at least one of them is regulated and rigorously tested and the effects are known so people know to expect that long crazy list of side effects should they choose to take it. Your gypsy bullshit is not.

Here's a list of people who probably wish they knew the dangers of the natural health alternatives they were taking. At least the ones who were only injured and not dead.

http://whatstheharm.net/homeopathy.html

Effects of Homeopathy: 368,379 people killed, 306,096 injured and over $2,815,931,000 in economic damages. If you click on Scientific Studies, it will give you links to scientific studies associated with the harm that was done.
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What is it about mid-westerners being so anti natural health alternatives? Must be because they live in BIG FARMA with the prevalence of chemical farming. That's just another vested interest that doesn't like competition.
Most of your natural alternatives demonstrated little efficacy in a controlled, scientific study.
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I have to go out and I am losing time but I am now pulling up data on Dr. Barrett the founder of Quackwatch. He's a psychiatrist who is considered a stooge for Big Pharma and who spends time concentrating on small time claims ( on products that are safer compared to certain drugs) while ignoring the bigger fraudulent claims of Big Pharma who rig their own studies.

By Dr. Ray Sahelian
http://www.raysahelian.com/quackwatch.html

I realize it's an opinion by another doctor but so are Dr. Barret's .

Why is there no review of Vioxx on Quackwatch? Why is there no mention on quackwatch.org of the worthless cold and cough medicines sold by pharmaceutical companies and drug stores? Hundreds of millions of dollars are wasted each year by consumers on these worthless and potentially harmful decongestants and cough syrups. Why is there no mention on quackwatch of the dangers of acetaminophen use, including liver damage? There are probably more people who are injured or die from over the counter Tylenol and aspirin use each year than from all the natural supplements people take throughout a year. If Dr. Barrett had focused his career on educating people in reducing the use of useless and dangerous prescription and nonprescription drugs (even just one, acetaminophen) he would have helped many more people than attempting to scare people from the use of supplements.
Another point I would like to make regarding Quackwatch is that Dr. Barrett often, if not the majority of the time, seems to point out the negative outcome of studies with supplements (you can sense his glee and relish when he points out these negative outcomes), and rarely mentions the benefits they provide. A true scientist takes a fair approach, and I don't see this in my review of the Quackwatch website. I subscribe to the Quackwatch newsletter (which often has interesting information) but there is hardly any mention of the benefits of supplements. As an example, see a paragraph from the August, 2006 Quackwatch newsletter mentioned a few paragraphs below.
Bottom line: Overall, Dr. Barrett does some good in pointing out scams in the alternative health field, but, in my opinion, he is not fair and balanced, and he is not a true objective scientist as he claims to be. Someone who has a website specifically tailored for criticism needs to have a higher and more objective scientific standard, and Barrett fails in this regard.
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Most of your natural alternatives demonstrated little efficacy in a controlled, scientific study.
Name them. I go by what people have experienced from the products.
Like how many people have died from properly prescribed medications compared to how few died from natural. Clinical studies do have limitations. Another being long term use of something.
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Name them. I go by what people have experienced from the products.
Like how many people have died from properly prescribed medications compared to how few died from natural. Clinical studies do have limitations. Another being long term use of something.
Thank you for proving my point by championing anecdotal evidence over the scientific method.
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Thank you for proving my point by championing anecdotal evidence over the scientific method.
You're welcome.So I guess you're not going to name them are you?

Testimonials are very powerful whether you like it or not. I love how you dismiss alternative treatments in one sweeping generality while not naming any. Conventional treatments are good for certain things like trauma...but for lesser things the body can heal itself which is the basis of alternative and natural treatments. These promote the building of health and focuses on preventative.

It's kinda like when the communists told folks, you didn't see or experience something.
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Homeopathy is often misleading and can be dangerous.
Worked for me and a toddler...and I didn't even know it was homeopathy.
Of course it was for minor health issue. Guess it depends on the doctor using it, what they use it for and the brand they use.
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You're welcome.So I guess you're not going to name them are you?

Testimonials are very powerful whether you like it or not. I love how you dismiss alternative treatments in one sweeping generality while not naming any. Conventional treatments are good for certain things like trauma...but for lesser things the body can heal itself which is the basis of alternative and natural treatments. These promote the building of health and focuses on preventative.

It's kinda like when the communists told folks, you didn't see or experience something.
I don't need to name them when Fish posted information citing thousands of examples in the very thread you're responding to. You can't seriously be this ****ing stupid.
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