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Texas Lt Governor: We Shut Down the Border Ourselves

by Brandon Darby 7 Dec 2013

Texas Lieutenant Governor David Dewhurst announced a Texas-led three-week effort that he says reduced illegal immigration, smuggling, and human trafficking to a standstill in the Rio Grande River section of the U.S./Mexico border.

The Lt. Governor spoke with me in an interview for Breitbart News; he stated: “In the Rio Grande Valley sector, nearly nothing moved in those three weeks. We shut it down. We had teams of Texas law enforcement in the brush, high altitude aircraft, gun boats, and more," he explained. “Our intel revealed that the Gulf cartel was growing frustrated with our three-week effort.”

“The border issue is just about dollars and cents,” Dewhurst said. “This proves Texas can do the job the federal government has refused to do — to invest in the border and shut it down from illegal activities that are hurting Texans and other Americans.” He added: "Texas will protect our own citizens and other Americans from the criminal gangs that are destabilizing our state and our nation.”

The plan, according to Dewhurst, was to do a three-week operation with the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) as the tip of the spear. He said the effort cost approximately $5 million each month. “We are fixing to appropriate more money,” he said. The Lt. Governor is seeking an additional $60 million to be approved by the State Legislative Budget Board.

Dewhurst stated, “We started appropriating money to plug the holes that exist in the border. We’ve allocated hundreds of millions, as a state, since 2008.” He added: “Nearly 796 million of state money, not a dime federal, has been allocated by the State of Texas to plug the holes in our border. This covers things like over-time for Sheriffs’ deputies, equipment, and Texas Rangers SWAT teams [referring to the elite Texas Rangers, an arm of the DPS].”

Lt. Governor Dewhurst said the state has purchased a high-altitude spotter plane that can see six miles into Mexico at night, six new DPS helicopters that can also see at night, and six armored gunboats to patrol the Rio Grande River.

“For six or seven years, I’ve been calling on our congressional delegation in D.C., we need to at least double, if not triple, the size of our Border Patrol,” said the Lt. Governor. “The federal government is not providing the resources. I’ve grown convinced over the last year that this administration has no intention of securing the border.”

“This is just unacceptable,” he said. “ We have a problem and everyone knows it except for the Obama administration and people in high levels of Border Patrol.” The Lt. Governor did not stop there: “Organized crime groups in Texas are contracting with Mexican cartels to be their enforcers. The cartels' presence are in all of our major cities. Seven of the eight Mexican cartels operating in Texas are using our state as a staging area for their operations across the U.S.”

“Illegal immigration is one issue, and we all understand why people want to come here. I’m a strong believer in legal immigration, but not illegal immigration,” said the Lt. Governor. “We have young girls being trafficked as slaves for immoral purposes across our border and through our state. This cannot be allowed.”

“The bottom line is that we have just showed that we can shut down the border for ‘X’ number of dollars,” he said. “We need to find the $5 million per month to make these operations continuous and replicate what we have just accomplished.”

Dewhurst concluded the interview by stating, “The State of Texas and our nation deserve better than what we are getting from Washington, D.C. Until they adopt the Texas approach, we will continue to do what’s right for Texans and for our state ourselves.”

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Old 12-12-2013, 05:17 PM   #16
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Holy crap.. what ISN'T wrong with it? #1 the quota system is beyond stupid. But hey it worked with the drug war! If we just make it illegal and ignore demand we can solve the problem! #2 it's bass ackwards technologically speaking. #3 because of #1 & #2 it takes FOREVER for most people to get accepted. A wait time that is longer than the minimum needed for security purposes is unacceptable. No excuse for it taking 6 months much less the 7 or 8 YEARS many wait.
Well, it IS the federal government we're talking about here, so I think #2 is pretty much moot.

At to #1, without specifics, I can't really discuss it. You aren't suggesting unlimited immigration, right? There need to be limits on the number AND the skill set we let in?

Regarding #3, the people who really want to come here and become part of our society I think will tolerate the lengthy process. IMO, it shouldn't be short and easy.
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Old 12-12-2013, 05:18 PM   #17
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Net immigration into the US from Mexico has been a negative for a couple of years. Dewhurst is posturing for the next gubernatorial race and trying to claim credit for things that would have been no different whether he had spent the extra $5M a month or not.
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Old 12-12-2013, 05:19 PM   #18
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This is a step in the right direction BUT it will ALWAYS cost far more than it needs to so long as we are constantly having to separate the wheat from the chaff. You have people pouring over the border looking for work and a new life and you have people coming for the sole purpose of smuggling drugs or women.. these two groups SHOULD be treated differently with different rules of engagement. Simple solution is to make LEGAL immigration an easier process (anyone who says it's fine right now is out of their god damn mind). If legal immigration is easy and open then you can safely assume that those coming into the US illegally have nefarious motives and you can take a "shoot on sight" stance. The cost/benefit on this is pretty clear to anyone who doesn't have an irrational fear of brown people "stealing jobs."
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Old 12-12-2013, 05:24 PM   #19
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Well, it IS the federal government we're talking about here, so I think #2 is pretty much moot.

At to #1, without specifics, I can't really discuss it. You aren't suggesting unlimited immigration, right? There need to be limits on the number AND the skill set we let in?

Regarding #3, the people who really want to come here and become part of our society I think will tolerate the lengthy process. IMO, it shouldn't be short and easy.
OK. Give an immigrant 90 days to find employment. They are legal resident aliens for that duration. When they find employment give them legal resident alien status tied to their employment. Proof of employment is paid withholdings on their paycheck. If they lose employment they have 90 days to restart the process.
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OK. Give an immigrant 90 days to find employment. They are legal resident aliens for that duration. When they find employment give them legal resident alien status tied to their employment. Proof of employment is paid withholdings on their paycheck. If they lose employment they have 90 days to restart the process.
Sounds like opening the floodgates to me, not to mention unmanageable.
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Sounds like opening the floodgates to me, not to mention unmanageable.

Not at all. First, those people are already here working. Second, this eliminates the need for police to go after people who really aren't causing any trouble. Third, this gives a legitimate way for people to come here and do work that needs to be done. Fourth, this generates tax income for the state.
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Not at all. First, those people are already here working. Second, this eliminates the need for police to go after people who really aren't causing any trouble. Third, this gives a legitimate way for people to come here and do work that needs to be done. Fourth, this generates tax income for the state.
No, not at all. History shows that any form of amnesty does open the floodgates. Secure the border first, and then I'd be willing to look at it.
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No, not at all. History shows that any form of amnesty does open the floodgates. Secure the border first, and then I'd be willing to look at it.
They go hand in hand. Securing the border against people who wish to do our society harm while opening it to people who contribute.
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Well, it IS the federal government we're talking about here, so I think #2 is pretty much moot.

At to #1, without specifics, I can't really discuss it. You aren't suggesting unlimited immigration, right? There need to be limits on the number AND the skill set we let in?

Regarding #3, the people who really want to come here and become part of our society I think will tolerate the lengthy process. IMO, it shouldn't be short and easy.
The only limit on #1 should be work. Period. The idea that eliminating quotas will create some MASSIVE influx (that we don't ALREADY have) is a complete myth. It's the exact same thing as the impotent "war on drugs." Or gun control legislation. Arbitrary quotas on these things only makes the situation worse and create a culture of criminality. If you want quotas.. fine.. make them so high that the laws of supply and demand make them moot and I'll have no issue. The only sensible requirement is one which ensures that immigrants come here to become PRODUCTIVE workers.
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They go hand in hand. Securing the border against people who wish to do our society harm while opening it to people who contribute.
Secure the border against illegals, period. How exactly do you determine intent to harm, anyway?
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Secure the border against illegals, period. How exactly do you determine intent to harm, anyway?
Again, you are looking at this from an absurd angle. Yes, it is nearly impossible to determine intent given the CURRENT FAILED SYSTEM. BUT if you have a system where all those with positive motivations are given a quick easy method of entry... you are left with only the "bad ones" trying to circumvent it. At that point you can put sharks with lasers in the Rio Grande and no one has a legit reason to complain. Securing the border become a piece of piss.
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Secure the border against illegals, period. How exactly do you determine intent to harm, anyway?
I'd say that when a group of people kidnaps a 13 year old girl and processes her into a sex slavery network through contacts that they have made, then arranges transport to willing buyers in our country...that's a clear indicator. I'd say that when a group of people establish, supply and maintain a network for transportation of illegal substances into our country...that's a pretty clear indicator. I'd say that when a group of people transport slave labor into our country and supply those slaves to affluent citizens who then keep those slaves under the threat of exposure and deportation...that's a pretty clear indicator.
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Well, it IS the federal government we're talking about here, so I think #2 is pretty much moot.

At to #1, without specifics, I can't really discuss it. You aren't suggesting unlimited immigration, right? There need to be limits on the number AND the skill set we let in?

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When you immigrated, how did they determine your skill set?
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I'd say that when a group of people kidnaps a 13 year old girl and processes her into a sex slavery network through contacts that they have made, then arranges transport to willing buyers in our country...that's a clear indicator. I'd say that when a group of people establish, supply and maintain a network for transportation of illegal substances into our country...that's a pretty clear indicator. I'd say that when a group of people transport slave labor into our country and supply those slaves to affluent citizens who then keep those slaves under the threat of exposure and deportation...that's a pretty clear indicator.
Yes but I think Donger means if you had 100 random people arrested at the border today ... how do you know right then which ones are bad guys and which are good. Of course you can't know.

But let's imagine a free concert where people are let in if they go through a simple security checkpoint that has virtually no wait time. If you catch someone sneaking into the concert you can assume they are doing so because they have bad intent. They aren't trying to get in without paying since it's free to everyone.
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