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Old 12-13-2013, 03:02 AM  
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An interesting hole in evolutionary theory (as we understand it)

I came across this in my travels tonight, and thought it might make for an eye-brow raiser...

The long and short of it - some researchers decided to reverse apply Moore's Law to human biology. Using their Moore's Law-based computations, they first applied it to modern computers, and came up with the right answer - that microchips showed up right around the 1960's.

They then took the same computations and applied it to biological complexity (which, of course, humans are the pinnacle of as we know it). The results suggest that life began 5 billion years before the Earth even existed...



What it really means, who knows... The researchers who ran the computations refused to call it a theory and instead label it a "thought excersize" (the cowards!). In any case, it's pretty damned interesting.

The article can be read here:
http://phys.org/news/2013-04-law-life-began-earth.html
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:12 PM   #46
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I'm not a creationist but if someone could explain what put all the atoms into our world, universe, galaxy I'd like to hear it.
The Big Bang

http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=1150

If you like Morgan Freeman's voice, you can watch some Through the Wormhole.

I'm being kind of a smartass here, but really, TtW is a cool show and easy to watch as long as you won't freak out when they debate whether or not God exists.
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:16 PM   #47
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The Big Bang

http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=1150

If you like Morgan Freeman's voice, you can watch some Through the Wormhole.
That's funny. Explain what was in that physical space before the big bang.
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:21 PM   #48
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That's funny. Explain what was in that physical space before the big bang.
Why are you so sure that there was a physical space?
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:25 PM   #49
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I solved your equation and came up with 42. Is that right?
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:29 PM   #50
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I'm not a creationist but if someone could explain what put all the atoms into our world, universe, galaxy I'd like to hear it.
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That's funny. Explain what was in that physical space before the big bang.
Are you saying that something can't just exist and that it must have been created?
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:29 PM   #51
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Why are you so sure that there was a physical space?
I'm not. But if science can explain the big bang they should easily also explain whatever physical existence was there before two atoms ****ed themselves into multiple orgasms.
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:30 PM   #52
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I'm not. But if science can explain the big bang they should easily also explain whatever physical existence was there before two atoms ****ed themselves into multiple orgasms.
Why?
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:34 PM   #53
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I'm not. But if science can explain the big bang they should easily also explain whatever physical existence was there before two atoms ****ed themselves into multiple orgasms.
The previous universe that imploded in the Big Crunch in my favorite theory.
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:38 PM   #54
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The previous universe that imploded in the Big Crunch in my favorite theory.
I've been intrigued by that one as well. Infinite series of contraction, bang, expansion.
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I'm not. But if science can explain the big bang they should easily also explain whatever physical existence was there before two atoms ****ed themselves into multiple orgasms.
That's my hangup with science and religion. If there was nothing then what created something?

It's mind boggling and it sucks that I'll never know/comprehend the answers.
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:42 PM   #56
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That's my hangup with science and religion. If there was nothing then what created something?

It's mind boggling and it sucks that I'll never know/comprehend the answers.
So we keep throwing shit at the wall and see what sticks. Science doesn't say there was nothing, by the way. It just says we don't know that yet.
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:44 PM   #57
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Are you saying that something can't just exist and that it must have been created?
How can something just exist?
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:47 PM   #58
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That's my hangup with science and religion. If there was nothing then what created something?

It's mind boggling and it sucks that I'll never know/comprehend the answers.
Exactly. Couldn't post it better.
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So we keep throwing shit at the wall and see what sticks. Science doesn't say there was nothing, by the way. It just says we don't know that yet.
Yes but for the creation of something there must have been nothing in the beginning.

Seriously, I'm bugging out of this convo before I get my head all twisted and go all Jim Carrey in the number 23.
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How can something just exist?
How can a creator just exist? In order for a creator to exist, didn't something have to create it?
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