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Old 12-13-2013, 02:02 AM  
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An interesting hole in evolutionary theory (as we understand it)

I came across this in my travels tonight, and thought it might make for an eye-brow raiser...

The long and short of it - some researchers decided to reverse apply Moore's Law to human biology. Using their Moore's Law-based computations, they first applied it to modern computers, and came up with the right answer - that microchips showed up right around the 1960's.

They then took the same computations and applied it to biological complexity (which, of course, humans are the pinnacle of as we know it). The results suggest that life began 5 billion years before the Earth even existed...



What it really means, who knows... The researchers who ran the computations refused to call it a theory and instead label it a "thought excersize" (the cowards!). In any case, it's pretty damned interesting.

The article can be read here:
http://phys.org/news/2013-04-law-life-began-earth.html
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Old 12-14-2013, 07:45 PM   #106
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Please explain.
Given the context of the last 3 posts, do you really not understand?

As Andy Dufresne said to the warden in The Shawshank Redemption, how can you be so obtuse? Is it deliberate?
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Old 12-14-2013, 08:03 PM   #107
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Given the context of the last 3 posts, do you really not understand?

As Andy Dufresne said to the warden in The Shawshank Redemption, how can you be so obtuse? Is it deliberate?
I must be since I read the post again three times and can't fully understand if it's sarcasm or gibberish.

But back to the subject since you keep bringing it up. Are you actually worried that religion is or will get in the way of scientific research here in the US?

Again, that's silly.
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Old 12-14-2013, 08:09 PM   #108
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Please explain.
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Old 12-14-2013, 08:11 PM   #109
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I must be since I read the post again three times and can't fully understand if it's sarcasm or gibberish.

But back to the subject since you keep bringing it up. Are you actually worried that religion is or will get in the way of scientific research here in the US?

Again, that's silly.
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Old 12-14-2013, 08:58 PM   #110
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Please explain.
It looks like you quoted him before he edited his post to clean it up, and now the unedited version is stuck in your head even though the original post has been fixed. Let me give it a try:

The "gaps that God resides in" shrank more in the 20th century than in the previous 1800 years.
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Old 12-14-2013, 09:16 PM   #111
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the god of gaps?

this is so confusing...
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Old 12-14-2013, 09:25 PM   #112
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the god of gaps?

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Old 12-14-2013, 09:27 PM   #113
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Considering the genetic diseases and conditions in just the human genome. If there was a creator, they did a piss poor job.

Also, that Camaro has no forces acting upon it while an animal does.
WRONG,SIR

A Camaro is a force unto itself
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WRONG,SIR

A Camaro is a force unto itself
Wait. Are you promoting Camarolution? Camareation? Intelligent Camaro? Or is the Camaro simply the Camaro?
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Old 12-14-2013, 09:44 PM   #115
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Wait. Are you promoting Camarolution? Camareation? Intelligent Camaro? Or is the Camaro simply the Camaro?
Camaro Rouge?
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Old 12-14-2013, 10:27 PM   #116
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Old 12-14-2013, 10:29 PM   #117
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i'm going to have to go back to using smillies again...

nobody gets my sarcasm/offbeat humor any more...

I just like posting the clip. I love the way that man thinks.
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Old 12-14-2013, 11:33 PM   #118
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Considering the genetic diseases and conditions in just the human genome. If there was a creator, they did a piss poor job.

Also, that Camaro has no forces acting upon it while an animal does.
Riiigght.

Those Camaro parts have the same forces all living things have upon them.

Even if you speak of genetic flaws it won't remove the amazing design of almost everything we know and have come to understand.

It really doesn't matter because it is just my personal discernment after understanding how complex and harmoniously everything works together.
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Same story for god. If he exists when did he begin?


Sagan said it best:

"If God created the universe, we must then ask the next logical question: what created God? We might say God came from nothing, or that God always existed. If we say that God came from nothing, why not skip a step and say the universe came from nothing? If we say that God always existed, why not skip a step and say the universe always existed?"
I was going to use the same Sagan quote. Well done, sir.
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Though it is humanly impossible to try and understanding how an intelligent creator may have came into existence, it's almost just as difficult for me to deny the reality of intelligent design and order found among everything we know exists.

Just a little example using DNA to store digital memory

How can the mind dismiss something that's seemingly so complex and amazingly designed, as coming into existence simply by chance, chaos or accident?

OK, lets say by some miracle you have all the ingredients needed just laying around to make something as complex, how does it come together perfectly?
For example, I can take my classic Camaro completely apart and lay it all on the floor in my sealed shop and I promise you, you can come back in 1, 10, 100, 1000 years and you would still not find a car there.

So for me, I cannot comprehend how a creator would have came about but I cannot deny the existence of intelligent design.
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