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Old 02-27-2013, 11:45 AM  
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Alex Smith did, does, and will always suck. (part 2)





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Old 12-17-2013, 09:00 AM   #46
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sit one out?....both of those QB's suck, yet both were rammed down chiefsplanets throat, when it didn't make a damn bit of difference. yet, here is a still active thread.
What were your thoughts when we aquired Cassell?
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Old 12-17-2013, 09:03 AM   #47
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So you want to equate a 16 game sample size to a one game sample size? Come on man, you're smarter than that. He's been better than I predicted as whole as I predicted an 80 QBR and he was that for most of the season, just recently did he bump it up to 90, but hell Peyton Manning was dog shit in most of the playoff games the year he won the SB. Who saw the defense carrying them to the SB?
I'm not equating. The fact that he has surpassed wins and TD totals that people said he couldn't reach. That's the problem with calling people out for enjoying the rub and success
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Old 12-17-2013, 09:06 AM   #48
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History repeating itself.

2009-2011: When the "Jets QB" is mentioned, 95% of the time, it's not by the guys that wanted to draft him.

2013: When the "Jets QB" is mentioned, 95% of the time, it's not by the guys that wanted to draft him.

God, give it a ****ing rest. If your only argument is to bring up GS, maybe you should sit this one out until you can formulate a real argument?
Of course they are the ones who bring it up.........because those QBs suck.

Yet every time one of them even had a halfway decent game the shoe was on the other foot.
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Old 12-17-2013, 09:07 AM   #49
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Old 12-17-2013, 09:07 AM   #50
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There are WAY too many variables regarding this specific topic to even bother.

Alex Smith "defenders" are looking to paint Alex Smith "haters" into a corner.
Oh I don't know... don't care about doing that and have not. The true haters have already been put in their place this season. Just pointing out that in each of our 3 losses, the defense gave away a shitload of points and yards. That if we do lose in the playoffs, I suspect it will be for this reason, primarily... as we have a precedent set for our losses.
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Old 12-17-2013, 09:07 AM   #51
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Team game and all, but this is pretty much the likely truth.

With Alex, you should know what you are getting. It's the same simple equation it has been over the last 3 years. If everyone else just does a DECENT job, Alex will do his... and that means KC will win.

Look at the 3 losses...

- Denver racks up over 100 yds on the ground.. over 300 yds in the air... and Sherman fumbled... losing the ball to Denver as we were in the RZ fixing to score. Our offense put up 344 yards this game.

- SD racks up over 100 yds on the ground... nearly 500 yds in the air... was 50% on 3rd/4th down conversions... Our offense put up nearly 400 yds this game, and took back a 4 point lead with only 1:22 left in the 4th.

- Denver racks up 132 yds on the ground... over 400 yds in the air... was over 50% on 3rd down conversions... Our offense put up 452 yds this game, and scored a 4th Q TD to get us within 7... but ultimately couldn't score on the final drive with 3 minutes left.

We lost the 3 games for a variety of reasons and shared blame... but c'mon... mostly our defense just shit themselves.

If we lose in the playoffs... I think it's fair to predict that it will be primarily due to our D not forcing a reasonable amount of punts.

Truth, it's a team game. As much as JC went off on Oakland, if guys were not doing there part, JC would not of had 5TD's and all of those yards.

At the same time, AS was not responsible for all the points scored the last 5 games, he was a part of it, just as the other players on the team doing their part.
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I'm not equating. The fact that he has surpassed wins and TD totals that people said he couldn't reach. That's the problem with calling people out for enjoying the rub and success
Let me try it this way. Going into the season we have a pretty good idea what an established player's numbers will be, right? We expect Peyton Manning to put up MVP type numbers, we expect Megatron to put up elite numbers. We we don't know is if/when they have that bad game. When does Megatron drop one that hit him in the numbers? When does Peyton through that INT in OT? You can guess what a player is going to be on a season, but to forecast what a player will do in one paticular game against a team yet to be determined in unknown conditions is just crazy.
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Old 12-17-2013, 09:10 AM   #53
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Now we have a specific criteria for playoff wins?

Just admit you'll never like the guy and leave it at that.

This is all so petty and ****ing ridiculous.
No, specific criteria for "going forward with Alex Smith as the franchise QB." The question that I was answering.

I assume Cochise's question about "going forward with him as a franchise QB" includes an extension and commitment to Alex Smith that pays him like an elite QB.

That whole post was about what it would take to jump on board with that type of extension.
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If you ever said any negative about Alex ever and are now trying to say you "are surprised about how well he's playing", or something along those lines, gfy.

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If you ever said any negative about Alex ever and are now trying to say you "are surprised about how well he's playing", or something along those lines, gfy.

You are the very definition of a bandwagon wuss fan.

You are
And if you swallow every cum guzzling move your favorite team makes without any critical thinking/analysis you are the very definition of a homer. Congrats you are now a Deb Deitweiler/Stevie Ray.
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And if you swallow every cum guzzling move your favorite team makes without any critical thinking/analysis you are the very definition of a homer. Congrats you are now a Deb Deitweiler/Stevie Ray.
Better than a Debbie downer that shits on everybody's parade because their own life is crap. lighten up Francis it's football.
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I've swung and missed plenty, but it is ironic that the people who so staunchly defended Sanchez for 3 years, and called for Geno to go 1, are a lot of the same people who just don't seem satisfied with Alex Smith.

The act of "SB or bust" gets old when this team hasn't won a playoff game in forever. I know omg, omg, he's actually going to be happy if we win a sole playoff game? Yes, I am.

I'm enjoying watching football after basically 15 years of shit with 2 good seasons sprinkled in.
You might want to read the thread, then - because I said the same thing. I want the monkey off our backs, and I really don't care how it happens.

With that said, there's also nothing wrong with people wanting to see how that game plays out. I'm not sure why it's a problem, considering the flip side - where people used the first 9 games as some sort of, "yeah, told you so" when anyone with a set of eyes knows he played average ball at best and rode the defense to 9 wins.

There are a ton of reasons this debate will likely never end:

-Many of the people involved aren't even arguing the topic anymore, they are just arguing the poster themselves.

-Many are absolute extremists who refuse to consider any middle ground.

-The Niner trolls continue to stir the pot.

-There are plenty of jackasses who can't formulate a coherent argument on their own, so they resort to bringing up Geno Smith.

-Some can't even stick to their original argument, and want to have it both ways.

Example: First 9 weeks - "He's 9-0! All he does is win!"

When pointed out that the defense/ST did the majority of the heavy lifting, the boilerplate response? "It's a team game."

Fast-forward to present day. We're 2-3 over the last 5 games. Apparently, it's not a "team game" anymore.

Nothing is going to change here, which is why I've stayed out of the conversation for the most part, along with the fact that AS has played well the last couple of weeks. Let's hope we continue to see "Charger Game Alex" and not "First 9 Weeks" Alex.
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And if you swallow every cum guzzling move your favorite team makes without any critical thinking/analysis you are the very definition of a homer. Congrats you are now a Deb Deitweiler/Stevie Ray.
And if after your critical thinking has failed you, and you refuse to change your stance because you are an ass hurt bitch?
What then?
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Better than a Debbie downer that shits on everybody's parade because their own life is crap. lighten up Francis it's football.
I've shit on Fisher and Alex Smith. Loved most of the other moves except cutting a FB that was drafted in the 6th.
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