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Old 12-19-2013, 12:45 PM  
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Old 03-28-2014, 07:50 PM   #2941
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True, but it's very doubtful he'll produce that. He's become almost a carbon copy of Chris Getz in every way.
That's ridiculous. Even for you.

I notice you are pulling the Oliver projection from Fangraphs and ignoring the other systems (which all have him as basically a league average player overall) listed right next to them. So cool (rolls eyes). Also worth noting that Oliver is WAY different in defensive projections than the other systems (way lower).

Escobar is an elite defensive shortstop. Chris Getz was elite at nothing. The Royals have Escobar secured at a very reasonable salary for the forseeable future. RA Mondesi is likely ready for the majors around the time Escobar gets into his team option years (2016 and 2017). And even in those team option years, Escobar is still a bargain EVEN if he is merely a 1 WAR player.
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Old 03-28-2014, 07:54 PM   #2942
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Infante has been #2 all spring, and Yost has said many, many times that he's going Aoki-Infante at the top.
Does anyone not agree with having Aoki-Infante at the top? Seems like a lot better options for the #2 slot there if Aoki is leading off.
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Old 03-28-2014, 07:57 PM   #2943
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Does anyone not agree with having Aoki-Infante at the top? Seems like a lot better options for the #2 slot there if Aoki is leading off.
I can live with it, even though it isn't what I would do.

Aoki-Hosmer-Butler-Gordon-Perez-Infante-Moustakas-Cain-Escobar
is what I would roll with.

But then again, I'm not a baseball fossil stuck with the idea of the 2 hitter being a scrappy, speedy guy who slaps the ball to RF and is "savvy" and "gritty."
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Old 03-28-2014, 08:02 PM   #2944
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I can live with it, even though it isn't what I would do.

Aoki-Hosmer-Butler-Gordon-Perez-Infante-Moustakas-Cain-Escobar
is what I would roll with.

But then again, I'm not a baseball fossil stuck with the idea of the 2 hitter being a scrappy, speedy guy who slaps the ball to RF and is "savvy" and "gritty."
yep, we're trying to win the "never bat Escobar #2" war here, Ned wants a credible hitter at #2? OK fine, whatever, I'll take it.
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I can live with it, even though it isn't what I would do.

Aoki-Hosmer-Butler-Gordon-Perez-Infante-Moustakas-Cain-Escobar
is what I would roll with.

But then again, I'm not a baseball fossil stuck with the idea of the 2 hitter being a scrappy, speedy guy who slaps the ball to RF and is "savvy" and "gritty."
I'd agree with your lineup but swap Hosmer and Gordon but keep the rest were you have them. None-the-less, Aoki-Infante makes little sense at all still but no where near as bad as Esky at #2. Then again, I'm not Ned "Bunt More" Yost.
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Lot of problems with that. A few key ones:

1) Just because the Royals have a lot of flyball pitchers doesn't mean a SS is not still the most important position defensively. Even on a team that features a lot of flyball pitchers, the most groundball action is still going to go into SS territory.

2) Then there's this line at the end: "Unless Escobar can produce at a tolerable rate, batting .250 at a minimum." Alcides Escobar is a .260/.294/.344 hitter in his three years as a Royal. He has exceeded .250 2/3 years. He's a career .258 hitter overall. If your argument is that Escobar doesn't fit because of how bad he is with the bat and how his defense isn't that impactful, don't set an offensive threshold he must meet... that his career numbers exceed.

Just a silly 'article' all around.

If Escobar doesn't hit this year, they will look at bringing in a replacement or alternative or competition. But until that point, people should calm down and see what happens.

Starting SS aren't exactly growing on trees... which is why St. Louis - a team with the resources to acquire any SS it wants via trade and the baseball smarts in the front office to make a good move - signed Jhonny Peralta to a huge deal. Few alternatives available.
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If you are right that his bat rebounds to respectability then he is worth keeping. He was a total zero at the plate last year. As bad as Getz no question.
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Side note: Sure am glad Twins have up so quickly on Gomez.

Hopefully, Sano and Buxton have "attitude problems" and get shipped off the the NL, too.
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