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Old 12-19-2013, 11:45 AM  
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2014 Royals Repository

With my 6,000th post on ChiefsPlanet (it only took me 12 years to get here), I bring you: The 2014 Kansas City Royals Repository.

To be discussed here: All things Royals, as they attempt to post another winning season and make it back to the playoffs for the first time since 1985.

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Duncan's Top 15 Royals Prospects

1) RHP Yordano Ventura
Power pitcher knocking on the rotation's door. Needs to continue progressing command and changeup but has ToR potential.
2) RHP Kyle Zimmer
Needs to stay healthy and prove shoulder stiffness was not something that becomes chronic. Big-time heater and curve, could be true ace if changeup and slider progress.
3) SS Raul (Adalberto) Mondesi
Held his own at 17/18 in full season ball. Has the glove to stick at SS and be above-average. Pairs that with a hitting profile that could top out as a .300 hitter with 15-20 HR power.
4) LHP Sean Manaea
Big wildcard. If healthy and back to normal, could be THE steal of 2013 draft. Was in line for No. 1 overall entering college season at Indiana State but slipped due to hip injury. ToR potential if healthy and 100 percent back. Tall left who throws hard and misses bats.
5) RHP Miguel Almonte
Advanced FB/Changeup combo for a young pitcher. Needs to develop breaking ball further to be a truly elite prospect, but warrants some comparisons to Julio Teheran.
6) RF Jorge Bonifacio
Emilio's little brother battled hand injury in 2013, sapping some power, but put up strong overall line nonetheless. Profiles as a good contact guy with 20-25 HR power. Could be a Billy Butler-lite type, but with the ability to play LF/RF.
7) 3B Hunter Dozier
Had a nice debut. Showed advanced glovework and good approach. Has good pop from right side, which is a big bonus from a corner spot.
8) CF Bubba Starling
Tools are still there, and he showed some positive signs in the second half. Draws a good amount of walks. With a good year (.280/.400/.500) could vault back into top 25 lists due to tools. Upside remains a Matt Kemp sort. Floor remains really low.
9) LF/RF Elier Hernandez
Big-time signee in international FA had a strong year in Idaho. Good pop, solid plate discipline.
10) SS Orlando Calixte
He can pick it at SS and has intriguing power. Might never be more than a UTIL guy, but could be a solid regular if he starts making more contact as he gains experience.
11) RHP Jason Adam
Solid innings eater who was better than his numbers at AA. Stuff is inconsistent... occasionally flashes No. 3-type stuff.
12) 3B Cheslor Cuthbert
Big signing out of Venezuela several years back still has some upside. Had a strong start to his season at High-A Wilmington but really struggled to start at AA.
13) C Zane Evans
Evans has the chops to stick behind the dish with a little more polish and should hit for solid power.
14) CF Brett Eibner
Less talented than Starling, but similar issues. DESTROYS LHP and is an excellent defender in CF (strong arm, good range, good speed). Had a strong second-half (.260/.350/500) in Northwest Arkansas and faces a critical year in Omaha.
15) 1B Samir Duenez
Young signing out of Venezuela. Showed well in rookie ball and has long-term power potential.

AL Central offseason grades: (Will be replaced by standings once season starts)

Detroit Tigers: D.
Seemingly gave away Doug Fister, downgraded lineup with Ian Kinsler for Prince Fielder swap. Did improve closer spot with Joe Nathan, though this was not as big a weakness at year's end.

Cleveland Indians: C
Cleveland has sat out most of the offseason. Swapping John Axford in and Chris Perez out is a sideways move. David Murphy is a nice signing for the OF.

Chicago White Sox: B

Chicago spent big on Jose Abreu to cover 1B, and it could pay off if he is as good as recent Cuban imports. Still not a lot around Chris Sale in the rotation. Adam Eaton is a sneaky good pickup for top of lineup, if he can stay healthy.

Minnesota Twins: D-
Ricky Nolasco contract will be a regrettable long-term decision, and the rotation improvements are minimal, but at great cost. Lot of money/years committed to Phil Hughes, who is a wildcard due to his health and performance issues in the past. 1/$5 is a nice gamble. 3/$24? Yikes.

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Old 12-19-2013, 12:42 PM   #16
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What if James Shields has absolutely no desire to extend, and wants to test free agency? You can't really blame a GM for not extending someone, unless you know for a fact that a player would have extended at a reasonable price, like with that Beltran debacle years ago.

James Shields did not grow up a Royals fan, and he has never had a choice about where he can play. He might like KC fine just as he tried to enjoy living in Tampa Bay, but if I were a player, I'd like to be able to choose where I play at some point in my career.
I understand that. To be honest, if I were James Shields, I'd probably test the free agent market. I'm assuming they could get get at a more reasonable price if they extend him now rather than letting him become a free agent, and I would just like to see Dayton try like hell to get it done.
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:45 PM   #17
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:46 PM   #18
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I understand that. To be honest, if I were James Shields, I'd probably test the free agent market. I'm assuming they could get get at a more reasonable price if they extend him now rather than letting him become a free agent, and I would just like to see Dayton try like hell to get it done.
He probably did "try like hell". I would assume that any good player that the Royals ever fail to retain, we always have several conversations about extensions, but if I were James Shields and I'm not scared of injury or ineffectiveness, I would resolutely but politely decline an extension every single time its brought up.

We don't hear about failures to extend, only successes. That absolutely fantastic Salvy Perez extension was utterly unexpected and just came out of nowhere. Some players want security more than others.
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:49 PM   #19
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I'm lukewarm about what he's done regarding the pitching staff, primarily because he hasn't done anything about extending James Shields. I'm starting to think that he may deliberately let Shields walk after next season if any of the top 3 upside candidates (Ventura, Duffy or Zimmer) looks like a potential ace for 2015.
What would you offer James Shields in order to get him to extend his deal?
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:54 PM   #20
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Starting pitching is gonna be our biggest question going into the season. Vargas as your #2 is scary. Odds would say that Guthrie should take a slight decline from last year. 4 and 5 Starters are still big ?'s.
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:57 PM   #21
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So what grade do you give Dayton Moore for this offseason?

I like what he's done A LOT. We've upgraded at second base and in right field with players whose strengths are a good fit with the strengths of this team. Aoki looks like an excellent defensive right fielder with speed who can hit for average, and the upgrade to Infante at second base is sensational.

I'm lukewarm about what he's done regarding the pitching staff, primarily because he hasn't done anything about extending James Shields. I'm starting to think that he may deliberately let Shields walk after next season if any of the top 3 upside candidates (Ventura, Duffy or Zimmer) looks like a potential ace for 2015.

I'm practically giddy about the trade for Danny Valencia, simply because he's sending a message to Moose that it's time for him to shit or get off the pot. If Moose doesn't tear it up in spring training, he should start the season in Omaha. Valencia would be a more than adequate replacement, and he could very well be an improvement. I think we got pretty good value for our 6th outfielder, and by the way, I liked David Lough a lot. I just think we probably saw his ceiling in 2013.

As of right now, I would give Dayton Moore a grade between A- and B+. If he were to sign James Shields to a contract extension, I'd change that to an A.
I would give Dayton Moore a B+. The pitching signing isn't sexy, but he read the market correctly there and got a guy who is a top 50-75 starting pitcher in MLB over the past 3-4 years for below-market value.

I like all the trades. Lot of good pieces added.

It has the potential to jump up to an A- or A grade, depending on any additional moves he makes. He really should move one of Hochevar, Holland or Davis for a piece that can help, or even for prospects at this point (Hochevar and Davis, not so much on Holland).
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Starting pitching is gonna be our biggest question going into the season. Vargas as your #2 is scary. Odds would say that Guthrie should take a slight decline from last year. 4 and 5 Starters are still big ?'s.
Vargas is better if he's your No. 3, but he's been a pretty consistently solid pitcher over the past 4 years (his time as a full-time starter).

63rd in ERA amongst starters in that stretch.
33rd in IP
52nd in WHIP
47th in BB/9
75th in H/9 (impressive, considering he's a soft-tosser)
61st best Opponents OPS (tied with Ervin Santana, actually)

I wouldn't call it 'scary' in light of all of that. It's not ideal, but he's a good No. 3/borderline No. 2 starter.

As for Guthrie, I wouldn't really expect him to decline. He's pretty likely to give KC an ERA somewhere between 4.00-4.25 with 200 IP and a whip between 1.25-1.35. It's just kind of who he is. He'll give them a pretty similar performance, and it wouldn't surprise me if he's even a little bit better.

they will have questions at teh back end, but many teams do. And the potential answers include some big upside/big potential at those spots (Duffy, Ventura, even Davis could be big upgrades over what the Royals got from Mendoza and Davis last year).
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Vargas is better if he's your No. 3, but he's been a pretty consistently solid pitcher over the past 4 years (his time as a full-time starter).

63rd in ERA amongst starters in that stretch.
33rd in IP
52nd in WHIP
47th in BB/9
75th in H/9 (impressive, considering he's a soft-tosser)
61st best Opponents OPS (tied with Ervin Santana, actually)

I wouldn't call it 'scary' in light of all of that. It's not ideal, but he's a good No. 3/borderline No. 2 starter.

As for Guthrie, I wouldn't really expect him to decline. He's pretty likely to give KC an ERA somewhere between 4.00-4.25 with 200 IP and a whip between 1.25-1.35. It's just kind of who he is. He'll give them a pretty similar performance, and it wouldn't surprise me if he's even a little bit better.

they will have questions at teh back end, but many teams do. And the potential answers include some big upside/big potential at those spots (Duffy, Ventura, even Davis could be big upgrades over what the Royals got from Mendoza and Davis last year).
Given Guthrie's age, I think a decline is very likely. I'd be surprised, albeit pleasantly, if he gives us 200 innings again. You're probably right on the ERA and WHIP though.
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Dude turns 32 tomorrow. No thanks.
Problem with extending Shields is that anything KC can really afford to offer (which basically means a 3-year deal around $18-20 MM) is something he can likely surpass quite easily on the open market.

I think he's going to age well... he's got the frame to hold up to the innings load he has handled, his arsenal is one that should age well (fastball-changeup usually does), and he's a smart pitcher. But there's also a chance he turns into a Jeremy Guthrie sort before a 5 or 6 year deal is over.

Can't afford to take that risk if you're KC.
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