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Old 12-19-2013, 11:45 AM  
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2014 Royals Repository

With my 6,000th post on ChiefsPlanet (it only took me 12 years to get here), I bring you: The 2014 Kansas City Royals Repository.

To be discussed here: All things Royals, as they attempt to post another winning season and make it back to the playoffs for the first time since 1985.

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Duncan's Top 15 Royals Prospects

1) RHP Yordano Ventura
Power pitcher knocking on the rotation's door. Needs to continue progressing command and changeup but has ToR potential.
2) RHP Kyle Zimmer
Needs to stay healthy and prove shoulder stiffness was not something that becomes chronic. Big-time heater and curve, could be true ace if changeup and slider progress.
3) SS Raul (Adalberto) Mondesi
Held his own at 17/18 in full season ball. Has the glove to stick at SS and be above-average. Pairs that with a hitting profile that could top out as a .300 hitter with 15-20 HR power.
4) LHP Sean Manaea
Big wildcard. If healthy and back to normal, could be THE steal of 2013 draft. Was in line for No. 1 overall entering college season at Indiana State but slipped due to hip injury. ToR potential if healthy and 100 percent back. Tall left who throws hard and misses bats.
5) RHP Miguel Almonte
Advanced FB/Changeup combo for a young pitcher. Needs to develop breaking ball further to be a truly elite prospect, but warrants some comparisons to Julio Teheran.
6) RF Jorge Bonifacio
Emilio's little brother battled hand injury in 2013, sapping some power, but put up strong overall line nonetheless. Profiles as a good contact guy with 20-25 HR power. Could be a Billy Butler-lite type, but with the ability to play LF/RF.
7) 3B Hunter Dozier
Had a nice debut. Showed advanced glovework and good approach. Has good pop from right side, which is a big bonus from a corner spot.
8) CF Bubba Starling
Tools are still there, and he showed some positive signs in the second half. Draws a good amount of walks. With a good year (.280/.400/.500) could vault back into top 25 lists due to tools. Upside remains a Matt Kemp sort. Floor remains really low.
9) LF/RF Elier Hernandez
Big-time signee in international FA had a strong year in Idaho. Good pop, solid plate discipline.
10) SS Orlando Calixte
He can pick it at SS and has intriguing power. Might never be more than a UTIL guy, but could be a solid regular if he starts making more contact as he gains experience.
11) RHP Jason Adam
Solid innings eater who was better than his numbers at AA. Stuff is inconsistent... occasionally flashes No. 3-type stuff.
12) 3B Cheslor Cuthbert
Big signing out of Venezuela several years back still has some upside. Had a strong start to his season at High-A Wilmington but really struggled to start at AA.
13) C Zane Evans
Evans has the chops to stick behind the dish with a little more polish and should hit for solid power.
14) CF Brett Eibner
Less talented than Starling, but similar issues. DESTROYS LHP and is an excellent defender in CF (strong arm, good range, good speed). Had a strong second-half (.260/.350/500) in Northwest Arkansas and faces a critical year in Omaha.
15) 1B Samir Duenez
Young signing out of Venezuela. Showed well in rookie ball and has long-term power potential.

AL Central offseason grades: (Will be replaced by standings once season starts)

Detroit Tigers: D.
Seemingly gave away Doug Fister, downgraded lineup with Ian Kinsler for Prince Fielder swap. Did improve closer spot with Joe Nathan, though this was not as big a weakness at year's end.

Cleveland Indians: C
Cleveland has sat out most of the offseason. Swapping John Axford in and Chris Perez out is a sideways move. David Murphy is a nice signing for the OF.

Chicago White Sox: B

Chicago spent big on Jose Abreu to cover 1B, and it could pay off if he is as good as recent Cuban imports. Still not a lot around Chris Sale in the rotation. Adam Eaton is a sneaky good pickup for top of lineup, if he can stay healthy.

Minnesota Twins: D-
Ricky Nolasco contract will be a regrettable long-term decision, and the rotation improvements are minimal, but at great cost. Lot of money/years committed to Phil Hughes, who is a wildcard due to his health and performance issues in the past. 1/$5 is a nice gamble. 3/$24? Yikes.

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Old 01-15-2014, 09:12 PM   #391
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Tanaka's risk is that he translates as a no 3 or 4 rather than a no 2.

Santana has the inconsistent performance risk AND is older and slider -dependent. I'd rate his injury risk much higher over the course of that deal.
You can't really say Tanaka is going to translate to anything yet because he's never pitched a inning in the MLB... American baseball is on a whole other level than oversees.
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Old 01-15-2014, 09:36 PM   #392
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You can't really say Tanaka is going to translate to anything yet because he's never pitched a inning in the MLB... American baseball is on a whole other level than oversees.
The Japanese league has proven it is about on par with AAA, maybe even slightly better in some aspects. So you can project with some comfort level.

Its a risk, for sure, but I just think there's a little less risk with Tanaka. All things equal, I'd prefer him. Younger, more upside, less injury concern, more consistent.

But there's also the fact Santana probably gets 1/2 of what Tanaka does by the time the posting fee is included...
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Old 01-16-2014, 12:11 AM   #393
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If someone out there is really willing to pay 25 AAV over 6 years for Shields, then do the QO, and get the draft pick.
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Old 01-16-2014, 12:59 AM   #394
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If someone out there is really willing to pay 25 AAV over 6 years for Shields, then do the QO, and get the draft pick.
Won't happen on the AAV IMO. But Fans should probably be prepared that Shields won't be here after this year. I'm ready for it, Duffy needs to bring his A game (he will). And I'm excited for Ventura
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Old 01-16-2014, 01:01 AM   #395
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If the Royals signed Tanaka I'd probably die from shock.
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Old 01-16-2014, 06:13 AM   #396
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If the Royals signed Tanaka I'd probably die from shock.
So would David Glass.
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Old 01-16-2014, 07:18 AM   #397
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If the Royals signed Tanaka I'd probably die from shock.
Oh, they won't. But they're not going to sign Santana either. All talking in hypotheticals there.

If you're signing one of them to a big, long-term contract, I think Tanaka is the better bet, is all.
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Honestly, I'd invest in neither and make a real run at Tanaka if I'm going to give a huge deal to a pitcher I want to try to slot at the front of my rotation..
If Shields wants $25M per year for five or six years, he'll definitely be playing somewhere else. For kicks, I looked at Baseball Reference's 10 historic pitchers most similar to Shields through 31. Of the 10 players, Kevin Brown was the only one who arguably performed anywhere near to the level that one would hope to make such a contract worthwhile.
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If Shields wants $25M per year for five or six years, he'll definitely be playing somewhere else. For kicks, I looked at Baseball Reference's 10 historic pitchers most similar to Shields through 31. Of the 10 players, Kevin Brown was the only one who arguably performed anywhere near to the level that one would hope to make such a contract worthwhile.
Isn't his No. 1 comp Zack Greinke? Thought I saw someone say that somewhere yesterday.
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Don't you have to assume that some of the young pitchers in the Royals system actually make it to the big leagues?

Would a starting five in 2015 be so bad if it was;

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Don't you have to assume that some of the young pitchers in the Royals system actually make it to the big leagues?

Would a starting five in 2015 be so bad if it was;

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Don't you have to assume that some of the young pitchers in the Royals system actually make it to the big leagues?

Would a starting five in 2015 be so bad if it was;

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I think it's a safer to bet against with the track record. Zach Greinke is the only starting pitcher in the past 15 years to pan out from our minors... and even that was tumultuous.

Before Greinke, the last Royals pitcher to come from our minor league system and be successful at the big leagues?

Jose Rosado. And his stay was short.
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