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Old 12-21-2013, 10:57 PM  
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Megyn Kelly: "Every Significant Historical Figure Has Been White."

Any truth to this?

Megyn Kelly of Fox News is at it again. Just last week she faced a public backlash when she announced that both Santa and Jesus were white. She tried to backtrack on the comment after many late night comedians used her as fodder for their shows, pointing out that one, Santa isn’t real and the historical figure he is based on Saint Nicholas was Turkish and likely brown skinned and two, that Jesus was Middle Eastern and also brown skinned. She claimed on her next show that it was all just a joke but her true colors came out on last night’s show when the cameras turned off but her mic was still on.

The panel which included Bernard Whitman, a Democratic strategist, Arthur Aidala, a legal analyst for Fox and Monica Crowley, a conservative commentator had just finished a heated debated about the suspension of Duck Dynasty’s Phil Robertson for making anti-gay comments. They argued about 1st amendment rights.

When the segment concluded Whitman asked Kelly if she thought her erroneous comments about Santa and Jesus would fall under protected speech. That’s when everything went horribly wrong for Kelly. Not realizing her mic was still on and she was being recorded, she announced that she stood by her statements and thought it was ridiculous that she had to apologize. She continued stating, “Look, every significant historical figure has been white.”

Whitman was understandably shocked and countered with, “What about Gandhi?” Kelley fired back, “He was obviously white. Everyone knows that.” Aidala and Crowley agreed with Megyn’s analysis. Whitman shot back again with a list of influential figures, “Martin Luther King, Mandela, Rosa Parks, Harriet Tubman, Cleopatra.” Her response sent Whitman storming out of the studio. “I said significant. None of those people are significant.”

No word yet about how Fox News is going to handle this situation. If those in charge run true to form Kelly will likely get a bonus.



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Old 12-22-2013, 12:10 AM   #46
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The truth is, we don't know what color Jesus was. We. Don't. Know.

He could honestly have been a black dude, or European white, or anything in between. We don't know. Nor, honestly, should we ****ing care about Christ's skin tone.

It's likely that his skin tone was the color of most everybody else in that region of the worlds, which is hardly what we all commonly refer to as white.

But we don't know. And anybody arguing that we do, is either blatantly ignorant or knowingly perpetrating racial propaganda.
True. The words themselves are what is important.
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Old 12-22-2013, 12:10 AM   #47
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Not Jude Law with long sandy hair and a beard, not Jamie Foxx in flowing robes... i'd say this nails it.
More likely a bit more mushy faced with a blazing red combover, amirite?
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Old 12-22-2013, 12:12 AM   #48
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True. The words themselves are what is important.
Absolutely.
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Old 12-22-2013, 12:12 AM   #49
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I understand. I surely would have stopped to read the story. I'm just saying it wasn't "good" satire. It should "seem" kind of real, but so ridiculous that it couldn't possibly be. As you said, that someone on Fox might have said this is actually plausible. It's hard to a good parody of the right-winger shows because they are already so ridiculous. Stephen Colbert is great at it though.
He is absolutely hilarious, and dead on. I loved that interview he gave with O'Reilly. I couldn't stop giggling.
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Old 12-22-2013, 12:12 AM   #50
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The truth is, we don't know what color Jesus was. We. Don't. Know.

He could honestly have been a black dude, or European white, or anything in between. We don't know. Nor, honestly, should we ****ing care about Christ's skin tone.

It's likely that his skin tone was the color of most everybody else in that region of the worlds, which is hardly what we all commonly refer to as white.

But we don't know. And anybody arguing that we do, is either blatantly ignorant or knowingly perpetrating racial propaganda.
Well, I would say it's safe to assume he was of the Semitic people.
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Old 12-22-2013, 12:13 AM   #51
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Do you think that was the distinction being drawn here by Kelly. Really. Racial typology. You don't think that would've come up in her non-apology segment a day or two later? No, Kelly implausibly argued she was joking, not that she was referring to biological anthropology.

I've got to admit, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about here. Even if it were true, and I've got no real reason to dispute that it is, that's still a far ****ing cry from what Megyn Kelly's audience is hearing.

Still, I'd love a link about what you're talking about. Sounds interesting.
A link? Can I ship you some outdated anthropology textbooks? I have no idea where you'd find definitive sourcing for this online. Basically the concept is that you have 3 "great" races... Caucasoid, Negroid and Mongoloid which are basically White, Black and Asian. These are NOT defined by skin color but but cranial features. The reason being that it's kinda hard to guess skin tone when digging up skulls. This system is simply a way for anthropologists to categorize things. Which is why "race" talk always seems so ridiculous to me when you understand what the entire concept means and where it comes from.

Fun fact: People from the Horn of Africa are caucasoid. So the following person is "white."

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Old 12-22-2013, 12:15 AM   #52
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It's gone beyond that though. You can apply Negroid/Caucasoid/Mongoloid as a basis, but you can use any other basis you want for "race" really.
Except at that point we are Humpty Dumpty and we are just making shit up. Words have meanings.

I think the idea of "race" is ludicrous and arbitrary BUT if you bring it into the discussion you have to play by the established rules. Ignorance isn't an excuse in my book.
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Old 12-22-2013, 12:15 AM   #53
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A link? Can I ship you some outdated anthropology textbooks? I have no idea where you'd find definitive sourcing for this online. Basically the concept is that you have 3 "great" races... Caucasoid, Negroid and Mongoloid which are basically White, Black and Asian. These are NOT defined by skin color but but cranial features. The reason being that it's kinda hard to guess skin tone when digging up skulls. This system is simply a way for anthropologists to categorize things. Which is way "race" talk always seems so ridiculous to me when you understand what the entire concept means and where it comes from.

Fun fact: People from the Horn of Africa are caucasoid. So the following person is "white."

(crap, couldn't find a pic of my Somali buddy so you get this instead)

And again, if you think this is the categorization of white that Kelly was referring to, well... that's on you.

If you get some links, send them my way.
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A link? Can I ship you some outdated anthropology textbooks? I have no idea where you'd find definitive sourcing for this online. Basically the concept is that you have 3 "great" races... Caucasoid, Negroid and Mongoloid which are basically White, Black and Asian. These are NOT defined by skin color but but cranial features. The reason being that it's kinda hard to guess skin tone when digging up skulls. This system is simply a way for anthropologists to categorize things. Which is way "race" talk always seems so ridiculous to me when you understand what the entire concept means and where it comes from.

Fun fact: People from the Horn of Africa are caucasoid. So the following person is "white."

(crap, couldn't find a pic of my Somali buddy so you get this instead)

Would hit.
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Except at that point we are Humpty Dumpty and we are just making shit up. Words have meanings.
We kind of are anyway. Have been for a very, very long time. Even those skull shapes don't really represent anything remarkable.
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Oh I would pound the hell out of that lily white ass. For Science.
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Ironically, that's how Ziggy Stardust was weaned from the peen.
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