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Old 12-23-2013, 01:25 PM  
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Why all the man love for Bray?

I don't understand all the man love for this guy.
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Old 12-23-2013, 06:41 PM   #61
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Because this fanbase has never had a young QB of our own to crow about, so we latch onto anything that appears youthful and promising. Even if it's some stupid long shot that will likely never amount to anything.

Trading for somebody else's 30+ year old back up is all most of us have ever known.
Wow! That is pretty dead on. Love me some Tyler Bray.
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Old 12-23-2013, 06:53 PM   #62
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Again... If he is our best option in a couple of years we are ****ed.
May well be, will never know for sure until he plays. Unlike Smith, we know what we have, a quality backup, just not going to be the right guy to carry us if called upon.

We know Chase is nothing but 3rd string material at best.

As of right now, neither of us know what Bray can do until given the option of playing. To me, it's not much better than what we have now, yet only playing him will find out. Smith today, is the same Smith we will see in 2 years, nothing more, nothing less.

Will Tyler ever play,probably not unless Smith gets injured. At least I can not write him off as you can not seeing him play any significant NFL ball. I'm not going to base his reputation merely on college ball. We have seen several college football player fly under the radar to make an NFL roster or even become a starter. There is something about the next level and set of coaches that see potential or is able to reach that potential out of a kid that someone in college could not get.

I trust you can at least see this much.
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Old 12-23-2013, 06:56 PM   #63
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This fanbase (in relation to qbs) is similar to a man walking through the desert without any water.

After a while, even a muddy puddle seems like Don P.
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Old 12-23-2013, 07:04 PM   #64
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After a while, even a muddy puddle seems like Don P.
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Old 12-23-2013, 07:10 PM   #65
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Honestly. I don't see Nick Foles do anything that Bray could not do given the talent arond him.
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Old 12-23-2013, 08:08 PM   #66
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Do you want to post Alex Smith stats? He's had like 4 good games all season.
I was just responding to your "lit it up" comment. He showed off his arm strength and made some impressive throws, but his decision making, consistency and accuracy were all still lackluster/subpar.

I've never believed Alex Smith was the answer and still don't. But that doesn't increase the odds Bray is anything more than roster fodder.

I hope Bray is able to improve in all the areas that need improvement and become an effective NFL QB, but we should pump the brakes as a fanbase on him. He has a lot of flaws to have fixed, and each one decreases the odds he ever is a productive NFL player.

It also doesn't mean we should be satisfied as a fanbase with Bray as the only developmental QB/potential QB of the future on the roster.

Can't pull all our future eggs in the UDFA basket.
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Old 12-23-2013, 08:11 PM   #67
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The guy has a first round skill set and a first grade brain that is hopefully getting whipped into shape.

I love the project. But let's get a more bona fide prospect in the mix too.
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Old 12-23-2013, 08:45 PM   #68
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The guy has a first round skill set and a first grade brain that is hopefully getting whipped into shape.

I love the project. But let's get a more bona fide prospect in the mix too.
Exactly! Love Bray as a long-shot developmental prospect. But you can't pull all your eggs in that basket.
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Old 12-23-2013, 10:14 PM   #69
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I was just responding to your "lit it up" comment. He showed off his arm strength and made some impressive throws, but his decision making, consistency and accuracy were all still lackluster/subpar.

I've never believed Alex Smith was the answer and still don't. But that doesn't increase the odds Bray is anything more than roster fodder.

I hope Bray is able to improve in all the areas that need improvement and become an effective NFL QB, but that we shouldn't pump the brakes as a fanbase on him. He has a lot of flaws to have fixed, and each one decreases the odds he ever is a productive NFL player.

It also doesn't mean we should be satisfied as a fanbase with Bray as the only developmental QB/potential QB of the future on the roster.

Can't pull all our future eggs in the UDFA basket.
Oh ok, with that extra info I see we are thinking more alike.
I like what I saw from Bray in the pre-season, but I agree that doesn't mean we stop looking for another QB in the draft.
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Old 12-23-2013, 11:06 PM   #70
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Again... If he is our best option in a couple of years we are ****ed.
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Actually it isn't. He makes Bowe look like a member of Mensa.
So it's ok for you to come to a conclusion before he's played in the NFL but everyone else needs to shut the **** up?
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Old 12-24-2013, 07:50 AM   #71
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So it's ok for you to come to a conclusion before he's played in the NFL but everyone else needs to shut the **** up?
What are the odds of an undrafted free agent becoming the saviour at QB?. Especially one that is known to make bad decisions.
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Old 12-24-2013, 07:57 AM   #72
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Yeah, he set the world on fire.
But if Alex Smith had those numbers people would rave about how he's carrying the team to the Super Bowl.
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Old 12-24-2013, 08:17 AM   #73
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But if Alex Smith had those numbers people would rave about how he's carrying the team to the Super Bowl.
Just because a True Fan/Homer says it doesn't mean it's true.

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What are the odds of an undrafted free agent becoming the saviour at QB?. Especially one that is known to make bad decisions.
This is why people need to pump the brakes on Bray. There are reasons to be excited about Bray, but he's an EXTREME long-shot to ever be a productive NFL starter.

The size and arm strength are NFL-starter level. Every other aspect of his game - reading defenses, making decisions, throwing the ball consistently and with accuracy, avoiding turnovers, leadership - has to improve from somewhere between "a decent, but coachable, amount" (accuracy/mechanics/consistentcy) to "drastically" (reading defenses, making decisions) to "astronomically" (leadership).
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Old 12-24-2013, 08:24 AM   #74
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Yes because so many undrafted QB's have won super bowls.

Oh wait..........

God people. I get that you want to develop something we drafted or grabbed off the street but just for the sake of it? Stupid.
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