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Old 12-23-2013, 12:25 PM  
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Why all the man love for Bray?

I don't understand all the man love for this guy.
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Old 12-24-2013, 10:12 AM   #91
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Do you realize Bray was held back by inferior coaching? Bray succeeded despite a horrible coaching staff. His phone started ringing off the hook the second the draft was over. Miami and Kc both were bidding for him. He was projected as a 2nd or 3rd round pick by most all draft "experts". Bray was knocked hard for coming out after his true junior year and Gruden gave him a hard time about it in a horrible interview (Bray's Fault) that destroyed his stock. With Tennessee running the read option under new coach Butch Jones and having a considerable lack of talent for an SEC team, his decision to bail was understandable. However at draft time it was still being viewed as a mistake.
His offensive coordinator throughout his college career was Jim Chaney, who is highly regarded both in college and the NFL both as a playcaller and developer of QBs/offense. Chaney was one of the leaders in the spread offense invasion of the college ranks, working at Purdue with Joe Tiller and coaching Drew Brees throughout his college career.

Chaney was highly sought after following the hiring of Jones/his release from Tennessee and eventually signed a huge deal with Arkansas.

The head coaching at Tennessee might have been shitty when Bray was there, but Bray's offense was coordinated by one of the best.

Bray is tall and has a big arm. He has some potential. But he has a LOT of work to do to come close to reaching it.
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Old 12-24-2013, 10:12 AM   #92
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Also, remember that San Diego drafted Phillip Rivers to replace Brees. Lol.
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Old 12-24-2013, 10:14 AM   #93
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So I guess Reid should just ignore what he's seen at practice and cut Bray's ass because the CP experts say there's no chance.
Not what I'm saying at all. Read posts throughout the thread.

I'm saying we need to pump the brakes because he's an extreme long-shot.
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Old 12-24-2013, 10:16 AM   #94
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Also, remember that San Diego drafted Phillip Rivers to replace Brees. Lol.
They replaced a guy who wasn't given a very good chance to recover from his injury.
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Old 12-24-2013, 10:42 AM   #95
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They replaced a guy who wasn't given a very good chance to recover from his injury.
Gave up on him too early. Made a big mistake.
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Old 12-24-2013, 10:42 AM   #96
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Gave up on him too early. Made a big mistake.
Ya. They sure ended up with a shitty QB in return.
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Old 12-24-2013, 10:44 AM   #97
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Not what I'm saying at all. Read posts throughout the thread.

I'm saying we need to pump the brakes because he's an extreme long-shot.
He's not an extreme long shot. That's where you are full of crap. Your opinion is he's a long shot and you need to pump the brakes with your pessimism.
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Old 12-24-2013, 10:57 AM   #98
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He's not an extreme long shot. That's where you are full of crap. Your opinion is he's a long shot and you need to pump the brakes with your pessimism.
Yeah, an UDFA is the hope of our franchise.



Pessimism is warranted in some scenarios, I'm sorry you can't seem to see this is one of them.
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:05 AM   #99
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His offensive coordinator throughout his college career was Jim Chaney, who is highly regarded both in college and the NFL both as a playcaller and developer of QBs/offense. Chaney was one of the leaders in the spread offense invasion of the college ranks, working at Purdue with Joe Tiller and coaching Drew Brees throughout his college career.

Chaney was highly sought after following the hiring of Jones/his release from Tennessee and eventually signed a huge deal with Arkansas.

The head coaching at Tennessee might have been shitty when Bray was there, but Bray's offense was coordinated by one of the best.

Bray is tall and has a big arm. He has some potential. But he has a LOT of work to do to come close to reaching it.

Yep that highly sought after guy whose team went 3-9 and didn't win a single SEC game, their first winless in-conference season since 1942. He is sure coaching up the Razorbacks.
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:07 AM   #100
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He's not an extreme long shot. That's where you are full of crap. Your opinion is he's a long shot and you need to pump the brakes with your pessimism.
What do you qualify as an extreme long shot?

The odds start out at not good (1st round QBs - less than 40 percent succeed) and get worse with every round down you go. By the time you get into the UDFA ranks (or below 7th round in the longer draft formats)you're talking about extremely long odds.

The definition of extreme long shot.
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:08 AM   #101
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I am not saying Bray is our answer but to summarily dismiss him knowing Reid's history with QB's is ridiculous.
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:11 AM   #102
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I am not saying Bray is our answer but to summarily dismiss him knowing Reid's history with QB's is ridiculous.
We may as well get excited for the prospect of Chase Daniel being our QBOTF then.

At least we invested a considerable chunk of money in him.

Think about that. Chase Daniel has a better shot at being the future of this franchise. Sad stuff indeed.
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:11 AM   #103
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They replaced a guy who wasn't given a very good chance to recover from his injury.
No. they were going to replace him either way. His contract was up. The year they drafted phillip rivers, the Chargers had had a really crappy year.

They had the number one pick. Just so happened that in that same season, phillips rookie year, Brees played REALLY well, until getting hurt in the final regular season game.

I have to believe the plan all along was to move away from Drew Brees.
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His offensive coordinator throughout his college career was Jim Chaney, who is highly regarded both in college and the NFL both as a playcaller and developer of QBs/offense. Chaney was one of the leaders in the spread offense invasion of the college ranks, working at Purdue with Joe Tiller and coaching Drew Brees throughout his college career.

Chaney was highly sought after following the hiring of Jones/his release from Tennessee and eventually signed a huge deal with Arkansas.

The head coaching at Tennessee might have been shitty when Bray was there, but Bray's offense was coordinated by one of the best.

Bray is tall and has a big arm. He has some potential. But he has a LOT of work to do to come close to reaching it.
Yet he couldn't do shit with Bray at QB and Patterson/Hunter at WR.
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Yeah, an UDFA is the hope of our franchise.



Pessimism is warranted in some scenarios, I'm sorry you can't seem to see this is one of them.
Tom Brady was a sixth round pick. Don't knock a guy before he's had a chance to prove himself.
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