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Old 12-24-2013, 09:48 AM  
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Marlboro "Special Blend"

I saw these ****ers on sale yesterday at Walgreens. 2 packs for $9. So I figured what the hell, I'll buy 2 packs. I bought the "lights" or as they call them now...the "gold packs". I didn't think they would be much worse than what I regularly smoke, which is regular Marlboro 72 Golds or Marlboro Lights.

Well I smoked a few of these over a couple hours, and I got this headache. One of the worst headaches of my life. It was so bad my vision got blurry, and when I got home from work I just had to lay down. I woke up a couple hours later and the headache was still there. Has anyone else had that issue with any brand of cigarettes? I seem to recall something similar happening when I smoked a pack of Camel Lights a couple years ago. **** Camels...
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:09 AM   #31
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Incorrect. You could pull on an e-cig for the rest of your life and you'd be way ahead of the game. I quit smoking over 6 months ago using the e-cig and still use it. I've stepped down the nicotine to 11 mg, roughly the equivalent of an ultralite cigarette. I do intend to quit altogether, but I don't have to be in a hurry.
Technically you didn't quit smoking, you just switched to a different method of smoking. Still.... anything helps. Good for you.

I have noticed though, that e-cig smokers seem to really downplay or excuse away any harmful effects and convince themselves that they're safer than they are.
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:10 AM   #32
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One other note....it takes a little bit to properly inhale an e-cig...but after two days...you're all good-to-go.
Yeah I've used an e-cig before, I've just never had a quality one of my own.
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:34 AM   #33
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Technically you didn't quit smoking, you just switched to a different method of smoking. Still.... anything helps. Good for you.

I have noticed though, that e-cig smokers seem to really downplay or excuse away any harmful effects and convince themselves that they're safer than they are.
Technically I DID quit smoking. I chose a different nicotine delivery system, to be sure. But I can tell you without a doubt that I'm not a smoker anymore.

Ecigs contain Propelyn Glycol, a common food additive, flavor, and nicotine. There is some argument about the effects of vaporizing it, but there is no way anyone can convince me that it's just as bad as smoking. There are no carcinogens. They've been trying to prove for 15 years that it's bad for you, and they just can't. Cuz it's not, other than delivering nicotine so you are still addicted.

I breath extremely well, my voice (I'm a singer and a voice over guy) never has a problem, I had a cold that lasted 2 days instead of 2 weeks, it doesn't stink and I can use it pretty much anywhere. I've tried smoking again just to see if I still like it, and I can't stand it.

I dunno. I would recommend it to any nicotine addict, because it is hands down better than any other quitting method and DAMN sure better than smoking. Just sayin'.
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:35 AM   #34
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Yeah I've used an e-cig before, I've just never had a quality one of my own.
Get a good one and stick with it. You can quit with it, seriously. You just have to get a good one though. The crappy ones they sell in the convenient stores don't really work well.
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:36 AM   #35
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If you're using it to quit all together.....then good on you. If you're just switching under the premise that it's better than smoking cigarettes...and you aren't going to quit...then you might as well stick to what you're doing now.
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:37 AM   #36
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Because breathing water vapor into your lungs is perfectly healthy.
Unless you think it's going to drown me, I don't really know what you mean. What are the harmful effects of the e-cig? I mean the confirmed ones, not the speculated ones?
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:38 AM   #37
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Unless you think it's going to drown me, I don't really know what you mean. What are the harmful effects of the e-cig? I mean the confirmed ones, not the speculated ones?
Whatever they are, there's no way it's worse than smoking 2 packs of cigarettes every day.
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:38 AM   #38
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2 packs for $9.
And that's a cheap price? Got'damn I'm glad I quit smoking.
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:38 AM   #39
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:38 AM   #40
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And that's a cheap price? Got'damn I'm glad I quit smoking.
Yeah. Normal Marlboro Lights at a QuikTrip are over $6!
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:39 AM   #41
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Because breathing water vapor into your lungs is perfectly healthy.
So everything that's unhealthy is equally unhealthy?

Not getting enough sleep isn't healthy.

Having a coca cola once a day isn't healthy.

Ask your doctor if he'd rather you smoke than either of those things. I hate this argument of "the alternative isn't perfect, so let's stick with the vastly more flawed status quo!"

Read between the lines if you must.
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:42 AM   #42
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My best advice is just to quit. Use the e-cig when you get a strong craving.

The other thing is I suggest treating ONE PULL off the e-cig as a full cigarette. If you want more of the fixation, buy flavored liquid and don't inhale. I steadily cut down and don't even think about smoking anymore. If, once a month, I really want a cigarette, I go find my e-cig and have a pull, oftentimes not even inhaling. My craving goes away and I'm all the better for it.

Good luck. Quitting is not as hard as it's made out to be. But you have to be smart and actually want to quit. Then it's easy.
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:43 AM   #43
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Your math suggests you smoked 1 pack/day. Is that right?
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:48 AM   #44
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So everything that's unhealthy is equally unhealthy?

Not getting enough sleep isn't healthy.

Having a coca cola once a day isn't healthy.

Ask your doctor if he'd rather you smoke than either of those things. I hate this argument of "the alternative isn't perfect, so let's stick with the vastly more flawed status quo!"

Read between the lines if you must.
I said that quitting was his best option.
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Your math suggests you smoked 1 pack/day. Is that right?
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