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Old 01-02-2014, 07:43 PM  
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Here's the number of people who've lost their coverage due to the ACA.

The GOP has been reiterating 5 million Americans will lose their healthcare coverage thanks to Obamacare, based on a figure of 4.7 million.

Turns out, the actual number is 10,000 in 18 counties. In a nation of 300 million+ and over 3,000 counties.

Of the 4.7 million the GOP has claimed will lose coverage, half can renew their 2013 plans thanks to an adjustment made by the Obama administration, another 1.5 million have access to tax credits and Medicaid, and everybody else will have access to an affordable plan where they live -- except for 10,000 people.

That's not good information for those 10,000 people, and adjustments should be made to provide some options for those people. And all behemoths like the ACA have some collateral damage, but again, something should be done to provide these folks options.

But a plan designed to insure 30 million people over ten years and bend the cost curve of health coverage has a much smaller imprint (about 500 times smaller) than many of the detractors of the ACA.

10,000. Those are the people whose cancellation notices truly left them in the cold under the ACA. 99% otherwise have ample options.
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Old 01-02-2014, 08:47 PM   #76
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and the thread title:

"Here's the number of people who've lost their coverage due to the ACA."

They did in fact lose their coverage, and that is what the ACA detractors are arguing...
They lost their then-current plans, but 99% didn't lose coverage.
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Old 01-02-2014, 08:47 PM   #77
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Old 01-02-2014, 08:48 PM   #78
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Old 01-02-2014, 08:48 PM   #79
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Not for the person getting the coverage.
Okay direckshun, let me idiot proof this for you:

I have a 700/month plan for me and my family. It gets cancelled. Now all I can get is a 1000/month plan, but it is subsidized by 2%. I went from paying 700/month to 980/month. Huh.
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Old 01-02-2014, 08:49 PM   #81
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No, you idiot.. they lost their plans which means they LOST COVERAGE. PERIOD. What you MEAN TO SAY is they didn't lose the OPPORTUNITY to get new coverage.
Thanks to the individual mandate, those two things are one in the same: you have coverage.
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Why?
I don't know WHY you made that ridiculous argument. Maybe you are a moron with zero critical thinking skills. You tell us. Maybe the world of lies you live in has disabled your ability to tell what is and what isn't accurate. I have no clue.
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No, you idiot.. they lost their plans which means they LOST COVERAGE. PERIOD. What you MEAN TO SAY is they didn't lose the OPPORTUNITY to get new coverage.
I'm going to have to ask you to take a more civil tone in this thread. Consider this a warning before moderator action is necessary!
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I don't care who you are, THAT was funny.
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Thanks to the individual mandate, those two things are one in the same: you have coverage.
No you don't. Holy shit you are an idiot.

Ok let's dumb it down for you some more.

I have coverage throughout 2013 because I have an insurance plan I pay for. NOW I get a letter telling me that plan is cancelled and I have to get a different (possibly more expensive) plan. At that point I HAVE LOST COVERAGE. PERIOD. Yes, I can go out and shop for a new plan... but unless I do so I no longer am covered.

So for you to say "millions didn't actually lose coverage" is in fact NOT TRUTHFUL. They may not have lost the opportunity for coverage but they sure as **** lost their ACTUAL coverage.
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Okay direckshun, let me idiot proof this for you:

I have a 700/month plan for me and my family. It gets cancelled. Now all I can get is a 1000/month plan, but it is subsidized by 2%. I went from paying 700/month to 980/month. Huh.
Fair point.
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I don't know WHY you made that ridiculous argument. Maybe you are a moron with zero critical thinking skills. You tell us. Maybe the world of lies you live in has disabled your ability to tell what is and what isn't accurate. I have no clue.
You didn't explain why.
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