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Old 01-06-2014, 08:06 PM  
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At first I was excited because I thought this was the goat-headed demon that Chris said was me. Turns out it is not Azazel, but my rival Baphomet.



Group unveils Satan statue design for Oklahoma

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) A satanic group unveiled designs Monday for a 7-foot-tall statue of Satan it wants to put at the Oklahoma state Capitol, where a Ten Commandments monument was placed in 2012.

The New York-based Satanic Temple formally submitted its application to a panel that oversees the Capitol grounds, including an artist's rendering that depicts Satan as Baphomet, a goat-headed figure with horns, wings and a long beard that's often used as a symbol of the occult. In the rendering, Satan is sitting in a pentagram-adorned throne with smiling children next to him.

"The monument has been designed to reflect the views of Satanists in Oklahoma City and beyond," temple spokesman Lucien Greaves said in a statement. "The statue will also have a functional purpose as a chair where people of all ages may sit on the lap of Satan for inspiration and contemplation."

The Satanic Temple maintains that the Oklahoma Legislature's decision to authorize a privately funded Ten Commandments monument at the Capitol opened the door for its statue. The Ten Commandments monument was placed on the north steps of the building in 2012, and the Oklahoma chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union has sued to have it removed.

Similar requests for monuments have been made by a Hindu leader in Nevada, an animal rights group and the satirical Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

In response, the Oklahoma Capitol Preservation Commission recently placed a moratorium on considering any new requests.

"Anybody can still make their request, but we'll hold off on considering them until the lawsuit is adjudicated," commission Chairman Trait Thompson said.

The push by the Satanic Temple has rankled elected leaders in this conservative state known as the buckle of the Bible Belt, who say such a proposal would never be approved by the commission.

"I think you've got to remember where you are. This is Oklahoma, the middle of the heartland," said Rep. Don Armes, R-Faxon. "I think we need to be tolerant of people who think different than us, but this is Oklahoma, and that's not going to fly here."

While Greaves acknowledges the Satanic Temple's effort is in part to highlight what it says is hypocrisy of state leaders in Oklahoma, he says the group is serious about having a monument placed there.

The group already has raised nearly half of the $20,000 it says it needs to build the monument.

"We plan on moving forward one way or another," Greaves said.

Another Oklahoma legislator, Rep. Earl Sears, called the group's effort "an insult to the good people of the state."

"I do not see Satanism as a religion, and they have no place at the state Capitol," said Sears, R-Bartlesville.

On its website, the Satanic Temple explains that it "seeks to separate Religion from Superstition by acknowledging religious belief as a metaphorical framework with which we construct a narrative context for our goals and works.

"Satan stands as the ultimate icon for the selfless revolt against tyranny, free & rational inquiry, and the responsible pursuit of happiness," the website says
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Old 01-09-2014, 03:37 PM   #271
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Old 09-11-2014, 02:56 PM   #272
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Satanists to Hold Controversial Black Mass in Oklahoma

ABC News By MEGHAN KENEALLY 23 hours ago



A devil-worshiping group hell-bent on hosting a satanic black mass is planning to go ahead with its controversial ceremony this month, despite fervent protests by residents of Oklahoma City and a lawsuit from the Catholic Church.

The co-founder of Dakhma of Angra Mainyu told ABC News that the religious and educational organization decided to hold the black mass in public but it will be a “tamer” version than some traditional satanic ceremonies by, for example, substituting vinegar for acts involving urine to comply with state health laws.

The upcoming event has generated controversy because black masses mock Christianity and the rituals that make up their services but organizers see it as an integral part of their religion.

"One of the dictates of the church is not only to educate the members but to educate the public,” Dakhma of Angra Mainyu’s Adam Daniels said, “and to debunk the Hollywood-projected image of our beliefs.”

Daniels said all 88 tickets to the Sept. 21 event – held at the theater in the city’s civic center - have been sold. The parks and recreation department, which rented the space to the group for $420, cited First Amendment protections in allowing the group to meet in a public facility.

"Mr. Daniels must abide by our local ordinances, our fire codes and all of our state laws," Parks and Recreation spokeswoman Jennifer Lindsey-McClintock told ABC News. "No bloodletting of any kind will be allowed.”

A $17.50 ticket buys participants a front-row seat to the festivities, which include a performance from the band “God in a Machine” and readings that call for the renunciation of God. Male participants and audience members are encouraged to wear black, hooded, full-length robes, but evening wear is also appropriate for spectators.

Anthony Briggman, an assistant professor of theology at Emory University in Atlanta, explained that the general motivating principles behind satanic groups – including Dakhma of Angra Mainyu – is to “parody” Roman Catholic liturgy by “demonstrating their opposition to orthodox Christian beliefs and practices.”

“The line between parody and mockery is a fuzzy one and it is unclear to me on which side of the line they usually fall,” he said of satanic groups in general.

“The goal seems to be to acquire some of the spiritual power [and] magic that they associate with the Roman Catholic ritual of transubstantiation, the transformation of the Eucharistic bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ,” Briggman said.

Co-founder Daniels said the Sept. 21 ceremony will take place before an altar-like table where a woman in lingerie lies (another concession to reflect the state's nudity laws).

The culmination of the event comes when the Dakhma of Angra Mainyu deacons and priest stomp on the, in this case, unconsecrated host and spit on it. Daniels said organizers will wear profane costumes, use explicit language and desecrate the fake host, which Catholics believe is a form of the resurrected Christ.

Professor Briggman said that in other instances, he has “heard the reports of ritualistic practices of sex, bloodletting, and sacrifice ... but it is unclear to me how much these reports are hyperbole designed to capture the attention of the press and public.”

Daniels said the Oklahoma City ceremony will wrap up with a Satanic exorcism intended to draw the Holy Spirit from the follower's body, which contrasts with traditional exorcisms that are designed to expel the devil from the individual.

"Our practices have gotten it to about 22 to 25 minutes," Daniels said of the ritual.

Additional controversy has surrounded this particular event because the Oklahoma City Archdiocese filed a lawsuit against Daniels' group after media reports that he was in possession of a consecrated host, a wafer that some Catholics believe is literally the body of Christ.

The host in question has since been handed over to the archdiocese and the legal action has been stopped, but that has not put all of the Archbishop’s concerns to rest.

"I remain concerned about the dark powers that this satanic worship invites into our community and the spiritual danger that this poses to all who are involved in it, directly or indirectly," Archbishop Paul Coakley said in a statement.

The group is separate from The Satanic Temple, a national group with similar beliefs that has long fought with Oklahoma City officials about the right to have a statue of the devil placed prominently in the Oklahoma State Capitol.

Lucien Greaves, the leader of The Satanic Temple, told ABC News that Dakhma of Angra Mainyu may be timing its black mass in order to coincide with the publicity drummed up by The Satanic Temple’s legal battle for the devil statue.

“I have a feeling that they're rather inspired by the attention that our activity has gotten,” Greaves told ABC News, “but I don’t think there’s a particularly higher concentration in Oklahoma than anywhere else.”
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Old 09-11-2014, 03:01 PM   #273
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Old 09-11-2014, 03:20 PM   #274
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Old 09-11-2014, 03:21 PM   #275
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Old 09-11-2014, 03:28 PM   #276
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Old 09-11-2014, 06:19 PM   #277
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Less reading the exchange between you two I am not certain as to either stance. As a guess he is speaking to the rise of Christianity being thought of as the religion of America. It is far and away the most popular belief in America. Although it gained the majority of its momentum in the 50s and is fading. I am certain that was not the intention of the framers. If his stance is the founders were not Christian that is simply not accurate. Many were however several were Deist~
Christianity has always been the "religion of America". The founders had overwhelmingly Christian leanings, though (as you say) many were Deist. Manifest destiny was fueled by divine right. The nationwide transformation from an agricultural society to an industrial one was implemented by church leaders completely reorganizing town hierarchies. The Civil War had massive Christian overtones. Every President has been a Christian. For most of the nation's existence, people just didn't consider anything else but Christianity; it was the default stance of nearly everyone's ideology.

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Old 09-11-2014, 06:20 PM   #278
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The "rise of Christianity" as the religion of America? I'm not sure what you mean here. It was the religion of America even way back then. The first people who came here came for religious freedom. Puritans in Mass, Catholics in Maryland ( named after Mary), Quakers etc. The Puritans weren't very tolerant of Roger Williams brand of Christianity so he founded Rhode Island. Christianity has been the dominant religion of America. The national govt is a separate matter. That refers to the government of the United States. Many of the guys who wrote the Constitution were deists, but not necessarily most of the people.

I usually make a distinction between what the national govt is and "America" which is more than just govt to me but a people, their customs, land, culture etc.
Just in the interest of being correct, Maryland was not named for Mary, but for the French Bourbon queen of King Charles I, Henrietta Maria.
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Old 09-11-2014, 07:44 PM   #279
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Is the statue up? I'd toss in. Its too damned funny.
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post 272 shows a photo of the statue. Just send it to me and I'll donate it to the Catholic Church in your name. That would be more ironic.
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post 272 shows a photo of the statue. Just send it to me and I'll donate it to the Catholic Church in your name. That would be more ironic.
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Old 09-12-2014, 10:39 AM   #283
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You know the funny thing is the only thing we have is this one book that says Satan is a bad guy. I'm holding out till I hear the other side of the story. If the bible is true then its way more likely "god" really is Satan. What else would explain the horrendous parts of the bible.

Keep an open mind here guys we only have one side of the story and wouldn't it be like the devil to make you think he's the good guy?
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You know the funny thing is the only thing we have is this one book that says SAtan is a bad guy. I'm holding out till I hear the other side of the story. If the bible is true then its way more likely "god" really is Satan. What else would explain the horrendous parts of the bible.

Keep an open mind here guys we only have one side of the story and wouldn't be like the devil to make you think he's the good guy?
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