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Old 01-08-2014, 12:02 PM  
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Texts, e-mails suggest political vendetta in NJ bridge controversy
By Jake Tapper, CNN
updated 1:07 PM EST, Wed January 8, 2014
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Top aides to Gov. Chris Christie communicate about lane closures to George Washington Bridge

The lanes were closed in September tying up traffic on New Jersey side of busy bridge

Christie has insisted he knew nothing about any political vendetta
(CNN) -- E-mails emerged on Wednesday purportedly from top aides to New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie bolstering the case that access lane closures to the George Washington Bridge were borne from a political vendetta against opponents of the governor, and were not the result of an incompetent traffic study as his administration claimed.

"Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee," Bridget Anne Kelly, Christie's deputy chief of staff for legislative and intergovernmental affairs, e-mailed David Wildstein, then the highest-level political appointee representing the state at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

That communication occurred roughly three weeks before the access lanes were closed last September, wreaking havoc on traffic from the New Jersey side of the nation's busiest bridge that crosses into New York.

What did Christie know about closed lanes?
Read the e-mails

"Got it," Wildstein replied.

CNN obtained the e-mails but none of those cited in this report responded for comment to confirm their veracity.

Democrats have alleged the lane closures were revenge against Fort Lee Mayor Mark Sokolich for not endorsing Christie in his re-election effort, and the e-mails and text messages provide some evidence for that suspicion.
Christie's office could not be reached for comment, but the Governor has insisted he knew nothing about any political vendetta.

At a press conference last month, Christie said he could only repeat what his appointee, Port Authority Deputy Executive Director Bill Baroni, "has said publicly and to everybody in this office, which is they believed the traffic study was necessary and that they ordered it, but the way they did it was mistaken and they didn't follow protocols."

Christie announced at that time Baroni would leave the job, which he has. Wildstein resigned in December when the scandal started to get some notice.
On the first morning of the lane closures, in response to a phone message from Sokolich regarding an "urgent matter of public safety in Fort Lee," Kelly asked Wildstein if the Mayor's call had been returned.
Wildstein wrote to Kelly: "Radio silence. His name comes right after mayor Fulop." Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop, a Democrat who also didn't endorse Christie.

Fulop claimed this week his decision was met on the same very day with news that New Jersey Cabinet and other high ranking officials were canceling meetings with him, and that a pension reform bill he had worked on was scuttled by a Democrat who had endorsed the Governor.
On the second day of the lane closures, at 8:04 am, Sokolich sent a text to Baroni. "Presently we have four very busy traffic lanes merging into only one toll booth. ... The bigger problem is getting kids to school. Help please. It's maddening."

Seeing that text, a person whose name has been redacted from the e-mails and text messages writes to Wildstein: "Is it wrong that I am smiling?"
"No," Wildstein responds.

"I feel badly about the kids," the unknown person writes.
"I guess," he or she adds a minute later.

Responds Wildstein: "They are the children of Buono voters."
Barbara Buono was Christie's Democratic opponent in the gubernatorial election that the governor won handily in November.

On September 13, Wildstein wrote to Kelly that the New York side of the bridge gave "Fort Lee back all three lanes this morning. We are appropriately going nuts. Samson helping us to retaliate."

David Samson chairs the Port Authority's Board of Commissioners and is a close Christie ally.

"We should talk," Sokolich wrote on September 17 to Wildstein, "Someone needs to tell me that the recent traffic debacle was not punitive in nature. The last four reporters that contacted me suggest that the people they are speaking with absolutely believe it to be punishment. Try as I may to dispel these rumors I am having a tough time. A private face-to-face would be important to me. Perhaps someone can enlighten me as to the errors of my ways. Let me know if you'll give me 10 minutes. Regards, Mark."
Other documents raise questions, too

Wildstein sent the texts to Baroni.

"Have not heard back from Bridget," Wildstein noted.

"Fck," Baroni wrote back.

The next day, September 18, Wildstein e-mailed Bill Stepien, Christie's campaign manager, forwarding him a story from the Wall Street Journal titled "Bridge Jam's Cause a Mystery."

"I have empty boxes ready to take to work today, just in case," Wildstein wrote, an apparent reference to being fired. "It will be a tough November for this little Serbian," an apparent reference to Mayor Sokolich.
On October 3, Baroni asks Wildstein what the "Trenton feedback" is. Trenton is the capital of New Jersey and where Christie's headquarters are.

"Good," Wildstein wrote.

"Just good?" Baroni wrote. "Shit."

"No I have only texted brudget (sic) and Nicole they were VERY happy," Wildstein responded. "Both said you are doing great. Charlie said you did GREAT."

The Port Authority, which is run jointly by New Jersey and New York, oversees the tunnels, bridges and seaports between the two states, as well as the metropolitan area's airports.
It's going to be interesting to see if conservative media decides to turn on the spigot for Christie's cause - or throw him under the bus. They haven't been too happy with him anyway. I imagine Roger Ailes is having some pretty intense meetings about this right now.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:01 AM   #61
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:05 AM   #62
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:06 AM   #63
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Yeah not really feeling it.

#1 is a slogan not a concrete statement like my examples. Hillary answered the call she just maybe didn't play it perfect. Someone may or may not have made a tactical error in the heat of crisis. A bunch of people with an axe to grind have never ending, often easily debunked theories as to why. SCANDAL!

That doesn't really fit on a bumper sticker.

Wtf does #2 even mean? A politician said something vague about being a politician. Maybe. Or whatever. NEVER FORGET

If you guys want to reach people whose reason isn't completely clouded by fear of freeloading minorities taking all their money (IE non-dittoheads), you're going to have to do a lot better than that.
No, she didn't answer the call. She was incommunicado after first learning of the attack according to the ranking state department survivor in Libya.

#2 isn't what all politicians do. It's what politicians who don't deserve to hold office do.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:17 AM   #64
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Wow, look at all those people killed who died because of bad judgment by Ronald Reagan.

1981 - Retired General James Dozier was kidnapped by the leftist Italian Red Brigades Marxist terrorist group.
1983 - Bombing at United States Embassy in Beirut, April 18, 1983. 63 people, including 17 Americans, are killed.
1983 - Beirut barracks bombing, October 23, 1983. 305 people, including 241 US servicemen, are killed by 2 suicide bombers.
1983 - On November 7, the Armed Resistance Unit, a militant leftist group, bombs the U.S. Capitol in response to the U.S. invasion of Grenada.
1984 - Twenty-two people were killed (two of them American) and seventy were wounded when a van loaded with four hundred pounds of explosives exploded in front of the U.S. Embassy annex in Awkar, Lebanon. Islamic Jihad (code name of Hezbollah) claimed responsibility for the bombing in a call to the media.
1985 - TWA Flight 847 hijacked, U.S. Navy diver is killed by Hezbollah.
1985 - Achille Lauro hijacking, wheel-chair bound American killed by Palestinian militants.
1985 - US Army Specialist Edward Pimental was murdered by members of the Red Army Faction. His military identification card was later used to gain access to Rhein-Main Air Base to plant a car bomb.
1985 - A car bomb exploded at Rhein-Main Air Base, killing two and wounding eleven.
1985 - A car bomb exploded outside of the Post Exchange complex in Frankfurt, Germany, wounding 34[1]
1986 - Four Americans were killed and five Americans were injured when a bomb exploded aboard TWA Flight 840 as it traveled from Rome to Athens. The aircraft was able to land safely at Athens International Airport.
1986 - On April 6, a Berlin discotheque bombing killed a Turkish woman and 2 US servicemen and injured 230 people, including more than 50 American servicemen.
1987 - A car bomb exploded outside the back gate of the U.S. Embassy in Rome and mortars were fired at the compound from across the street. One passerby was injured in the attacks.
1988 - On April 14 at 8 p.m., a car bomb exploded in front of the USO Club in Naples, Italy. Five people died and fifteen were injured, including four U.S. servicemen who were injured and US Navy Petty Officer Angela Santos, 21, was killed. Junzo Okudaira, a Japanese Red Army (JRA) member, was indicted in the United States on April 9, 1993 for the Naples bombing. Okudaira is also a suspect in the June 1987 car bombing and mortar attack against the U.S. Embassy in Rome.
1988 - Pan Am Flight 103, outbound from London for New York with 259 people aboard, was destroyed by a bomb on December 21, 1988 while over Lockerbie, Scotland. All aboard the aircraft were killed as were eleven persons on the ground.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:19 AM   #65
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I didn't ask you. And I don't see that list was covering the ME embassies "forever." I see other places and times. "Forever" is a pretty sweeping statement...I doubt it can be defended under that. It's more like modern times and not just embassies. Plus he said "bad shit" not terrorism.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:23 AM   #66
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Hillary was nowhere to be found when the 3am call came.

Hillary admitted, in the presence of Robert Gates, that domestic politics trumped national security when it came to taking a position on an ongoing war.
Geez pat, you're sinking to new depths.
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So, Christie's staff doing something means he did something? So, we can hold Obama responsible for any things his staff did?
Yeah, you can START doing that. You've shown a lot of restraint not doing that up till now.
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Geez pat, you're sinking to new depths.
Yeah, I've sunk to the depth of pointing out something scandalous about a democrat. How low can I go?

FWIW, I've never pretended to be center-of-the-road like you and Suzzer.
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No, she didn't answer the call. She was incommunicado after first learning of the attack according to the ranking state department survivor in Libya.
Maybe she was having another rendezvous with Markie Post or Mary Steenburgen. Sexual escapades have a way of distracting one.
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Maybe she was having another rendezvous with Markie Post or Mary Steenburgen. Sexual escapades have a way of distracting one.
I think the simplest explanation is that she was putting Hillary's political viability ahead of getting too involved managing a politically dangerous crisis.
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If 2016 is Hillary vs Christie I am just gonna stay home.

Put em both in a sack, pull one out, walla same person.
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If 2016 is Hillary vs Christie I am just gonna stay home.

Put em both in a sack, pull one out, walla same person.
All right already with the canckle cracks. She's got thick ankles, we got it...
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If 2016 is Hillary vs Christie I am just gonna stay home.

Put em both in a sack, pull one out, walla same person.
Who would you like to see run, oldandslow?
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If the evidence of this is flimsy why is he apologizing and firing top aides?
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If 2016 is Hillary vs Christie I am just gonna stay home.

Put em both in a sack, pull one out, walla same person.
That's the way I see it too.
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