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Old 01-10-2014, 10:01 AM  
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WASHINGTON -- Weeks after Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.) made headlines for suggesting low-income students sweep cafeteria floors to learn there's "no such thing as free lunch," Savannah TV station WSAV 3 looked at the "free lunches" Kingston himself has received as a member of Congress.

There's no precise way to count the number of lunches Kingston has enjoyed on taxpayer dollars, but the station took a look at expense reports and disclosures to uncover staggering figures from the congressman's three years in office.

According to the station's investigation, Kingston and his staff have expensed $4,182 worth of "meals for business purposes," and recorded $4,289.33 in free meals from third-party interest groups, including the Congressional Institute and the Georgia Bankers Association.

As a member of the House Appropriations Committee, Kingston has traveled to four continents, racking up $24,313 in per diem allowances. While the allowances were allotted for more than just lunch money, midday meals were included.

When WSAV 3 asked Kingston whether he believes members of Congress "work hard," the congressman "defended his work ethic," saying he works 60 hours to 70 hours a week.

"That's what representative democracy is about, is members going to Washington, but coming home and answering the tough questions," Kingston told the station.

Beyond taxpayer dollars, Kingston has enjoyed many free meals on the campaign trail. WSAV 3 reported $145,391.26 in expensed meals and catering for campaign events, $26,066.45 of which was charged at the Republican Club of Capitol Hill, an exclusive, members only venue.
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Old 01-14-2014, 04:49 PM   #256
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Old 01-14-2014, 05:27 PM   #257
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Old 01-14-2014, 05:39 PM   #258
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Old 01-14-2014, 07:52 PM   #259
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Old 01-15-2014, 09:17 AM   #260
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why?
Because we don't have any details to go on. If you were to make a comment that you think marijuana should be legal without going into any details, it would be wrong for me jump to a conclusion and demonize you on the assumption that you want grade school kids to have unlimited access to as much pot as they can smoke because you didn't say you want that. I can disagree with your comment as far as it goes (if I'm against any form of legalization, for example), but taking it farther is unsupportable without acknowledging that I'm basing it on my own assumptions rather than something you actually said.
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Old 01-15-2014, 09:28 AM   #261
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That's not a valid comparison.

None of the kids, rich or poor, have the expectation of having to work for their lunch at that age. It has absolutely zero to do with your absurd "Free lunch" status quo. These are kids we're talking about. I'll take the status quo of healthy nourished kids anytime, and would never see that as a negative.

We've created a society capable of providing food to kids when they're hungry, should their parents not be able to provide for them....

The priority first and foremost should be healthy well-fed kids. There's plenty other/better ways to instill good work ethic that would be more effective than this terrible plan.
I think you're either nuts or you overuse the word "terrible".

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We're mostly capable of preventing malnourished American kids, yet you can't seem to get over your animosity towards poor people to let some hungry poor kid have a free lunch. You seem to think that unless we make them work for it, they'll just end up as a dreaded "Freeloader".
And I don't know how you can possibly come to this conclusion since I've posted on 5 different occasions in this thread that I wouldn't pursue this change. (Now make it 6).

I have no animosity toward poor people. The "animosity" you're detecting (which isn't really animosity at all) is toward people who can't read the thread and (mostly the same) people who demonstrate such divisive, black and white thinking that it's no wonder our Congress can't get anything done.
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Old 01-15-2014, 09:29 AM   #262
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I have no problem with it being locally funded. But I do have an issue with you seeing it as "optional". It simply isn't. You have stated "we don't force them to eat lunch." No but we do force them to be in a specific location for 7 hours of the day. So your argument should apply equally to prisoners right? We don't force them to eat, that's their choice so they should either bring all their own food to prison with them beforehand or work for their meals? If they refuse they can simply go hungry?

Sorry but you force anyone (child or not) by LAW to spend 1/4 of their day under someone else's control and you damn well have to feed them. I think it is RIDICULOUS that ALL lunches aren't simply a part of the cost of schooling.

You have two choices, provide lunches or stop requiring kids to be placed under state control for 7 hours a day.

On the practical side of things, by providing everyone lunch you would significantly reduce overhead such that the program's costs would likely be insignificant.

EDIT: 1/4? What the hell, apparently there are 28 hours in a day now. Im and idiot. A better way to say that would be over 40% of their waking day (7/17)
Yeah, I'm against this kind of heavy handed, top down approach. Local control would go a long way toward protecting the obvious, short-term interests of the kids, IMO.
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Old 01-15-2014, 09:31 AM   #263
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I guess there a few others that must be slow kids too. Maybe they have not taken the required course of reading all of your posts. Maybe you should write a book so all of us slow kids can grasp your brilliance. Use big letters,small words and lots of pictures so we can understand it~
Yes, there are certainly a few others. But you stood out.
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Old 01-15-2014, 09:35 AM   #264
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One really has to wonder what his commentary on this would be if the congressman had a D next to his name instead of an R.
I could say the same about you or gblowfish. None of us is likely to ever know.
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Old 01-15-2014, 09:37 AM   #265
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I am highly suspicious that is a factor. Also the guy just loves to argue~
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I'd call this a lie, but I think it's just another case of slow. I have no problem acknowledging that I like a good argument.
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Old 01-15-2014, 09:38 AM   #266
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Yes, there are certainly a few others. But you stood out.
You enjoy arguing and I understand that. You are stretching and squirming to avoid just admitting what this idiot said was bullshit. I could really careless what you think of me pat. After this thread it will be hard to take you seriously. Arguing is more important to you than anything else~
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And I don't know how you can possibly come to this conclusion since I've posted on 5 different occasions in this thread that I wouldn't pursue this change. (Now make it 6).
I'm glad you admit that you wouldn't support the terrible idea.
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I'm glad you admit that you wouldn't support the terrible idea.
He wouldn't support it, but he has a bunch of reasons why it would be dumb not to support it.
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He wouldn't support it, but he has a bunch of reasons why it would be dumb not it's not evil to support it.
This post has been revised for accuracy.
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I'm glad you admit that you wouldn't support the terrible idea.
I'm glad you acknowledge you were terribly wrong.
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