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Old 01-11-2014, 01:54 PM  
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Old 01-18-2014, 02:14 PM   #121
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simple yes or no question dude...you've called the writers sheepherders, I claim it's supernaturally written..

don't wuss out now.
That does not meet any standard of proof.
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Old 01-18-2014, 02:16 PM   #122
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simple yes or no question dude...you've called the writers sheepherders, I claim it's supernaturally written..

don't wuss out now.
Whoa partner I certainly am not wussing out on anything. You made the claim and I am asking you to backup the claim. As I said if you wish to rephrase as I suggested it is a done deal. However it appears you are the one ducking here~
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Old 01-18-2014, 02:42 PM   #123
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Whoa partner I certainly am not wussing out on anything. You made the claim and I am asking you to backup the claim. As I said if you wish to rephrase as I suggested it is a done deal. However it appears you are the one ducking here~
sure, i get that..and Im asking you to accept a simple challenge..how about just eleven verses in one chapter?
.....think you can match it? cause I'm telling you,without malice, you can't.

write a geneology, using sevens in a heptadic structure.

1) number of words divisible by 7.

2) number of letters divisible by 7

3)number of vowels and consonants, divisible by 7

4)number of words that beign with a vowel or consanant divisible by 7

5) number of words that occur more than once, divsible by 7.

6) number of words that occur more than one form. divisible by 7

7)number of words only in one form, divisble by 7.

8) only seven words shall not be nouns

9) number of generations divisible by 7

10)number of names divisible by 7.

good luck....at this point ,your chances are 1 in 40, 353, 687.


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Old 01-18-2014, 02:45 PM   #124
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simple yes or no question dude...you've called the writers sheepherders, I claim it's supernaturally written..

don't wuss out now.
I will also add am I allowed the same time frame? Seeing as all these books were written long after the reported events. I guess I should have let this pass. That said if I made the claim I could easily prove these books were not guided by the hand of god or claimed I could easily prove there is no god I would fully expect you to take me to task also~
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Old 01-18-2014, 02:50 PM   #125
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sure, i get that..and Im asking you to accept a simple challenge..how about just eleven verses in one chapter?
.....think you can match it? cause I'm telling you,without malice, you can't.

write a geneology, using sevens in a heptadic structure.

1) number of words divisible by 7.

2) number of letters divisible by 7

3)number of vowels and consonants, divisible by 7

4)number of words that beign with a vowel or consanant divisible by 7

5) number of words that occur more than once, divsible by 7.

6) number of words that occur more than one form. divisible by 7

7)number of words only in one form, divisble by 7.

8) only seven words shall not be nouns

9) number of generations divisible by 7

10)number of names divisible by 7.

good luck....at this point ,your chances are 1 in 40, 353, 687.


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Do I get hundreds of years and a thousand or more human minds dedicated to repeating these stories a thousand or more times during their lifetimes?

You say it is a large chance but you don't understand just how many times those stories were repeated before anybody ever wrote them down.
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Old 01-18-2014, 03:00 PM   #126
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Do I get hundreds of years and a thousand or more human minds dedicated to repeating these stories a thousand or more times during their lifetimes?

You say it is a large chance but you don't understand just how many times those stories were repeated before anybody ever wrote them down.
if you had the aid of 1 million supercomputers, it would take over 4 milion years..

...the chance that this geneology of Jesus Christ is random( or written by goat herders) is statitiscally improbable.
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Old 01-18-2014, 03:02 PM   #127
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sure, i get that..and Im asking you to accept a simple challenge..how about just eleven verses in one chapter?
.....think you can match it? cause I'm telling you,without malice, you can't.

write a geneology, using sevens in a heptadic structure.

1) number of words divisible by 7.

2) number of letters divisible by 7

3)number of vowels and consonants, divisible by 7

4)number of words that beign with a vowel or consanant divisible by 7

5) number of words that occur more than once, divsible by 7.

6) number of words that occur more than one form. divisible by 7

7)number of words only in one form, divisble by 7.

8) only seven words shall not be nouns

9) number of generations divisible by 7

10)number of names divisible by 7.

good luck....at this point ,your chances are 1 in 40, 353, 687.


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This is very interesting and why I spend so much time listening to lectures, debates. I have never looked into this and will. I seek the truth well knowing it may render unwelcome results. I am halfway through The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. I will definitely look into this~
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Old 01-18-2014, 03:05 PM   #128
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This is very interesting and why I spend so much time listening to lectures, debates. I have never looked into this and will. I seek the truth well knowing it may render unwelcome results. I am halfway through The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. I will definitely look into this~
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Old 01-18-2014, 03:11 PM   #129
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if you had the aid of 1 million supercomputers, it would take over 4 milion years..

...the chance that this geneology of Jesus Christ is random( or written by goat herders) is statitiscally improbable.
Strange. Why are there so many contradictions? Why can't the writers agree on everything. After all this is supposed to be guided by the hand of God~
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Old 01-18-2014, 03:21 PM   #130
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it's not mathematically possible to be random, or by chance.

sorry for the confusion.
Yes, it is. You have no clue of how statistics work nor do you have a clue of the size of the universe.
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Old 01-18-2014, 03:22 PM   #131
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if you had the aid of 1 million supercomputers, it would take over 4 milion years..

...the chance that this geneology of Jesus Christ is random( or written by goat herders) is statitiscally improbable.
Or it was created like that on purpose as a mnemonic device since you know they were repeating this from memory and not reading it from a book.

Not divinely inspired at all. Just the human brain working.
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sure, i get that..and Im asking you to accept a simple challenge..how about just eleven verses in one chapter?
.....think you can match it? cause I'm telling you,without malice, you can't.

write a geneology, using sevens in a heptadic structure.

1) number of words divisible by 7.

2) number of letters divisible by 7

3)number of vowels and consonants, divisible by 7

4)number of words that beign with a vowel or consanant divisible by 7

5) number of words that occur more than once, divsible by 7.

6) number of words that occur more than one form. divisible by 7

7)number of words only in one form, divisble by 7.

8) only seven words shall not be nouns

9) number of generations divisible by 7

10)number of names divisible by 7.

good luck....at this point ,your chances are 1 in 40, 353, 687.


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sure, i get that..and Im asking you to accept a simple challenge..how about just eleven verses in one chapter?
.....think you can match it? cause I'm telling you,without malice, you can't.

write a geneology, using sevens in a heptadic structure.

1) number of words divisible by 7.

2) number of letters divisible by 7

3)number of vowels and consonants, divisible by 7

4)number of words that beign with a vowel or consanant divisible by 7

5) number of words that occur more than once, divsible by 7.

6) number of words that occur more than one form. divisible by 7

7)number of words only in one form, divisble by 7.

8) only seven words shall not be nouns

9) number of generations divisible by 7

10)number of names divisible by 7.

good luck....at this point ,your chances are 1 in 40, 353, 687.


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so which translation is this based off of?
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