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Old 01-13-2014, 05:31 PM  
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Fullerton Police Officers beat schizophrenic man to death found Not Guilty

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...#axzz2qKLchle4


By Adolfo Flores and Paloma Esquivel

January 13, 2014, 4:12 p.m.

An Orange County jury Monday found two former Fullerton police officers accused of killing a schizophrenic homeless man, Kelly Thomas, not guilty.

Manuel Ramos and Jay Cicinelli were charged with striking Kelly Thomas with a baton and a stun gun in a beating that left him comatose. He died five days later.

[Updated at 4:12 p.m.: Ramos, Cicinelli and their families were swiftly escorted out of the courtroom.

Ron Thomas, Kelly Thomas' father, said he was stunned by the verdict, saying he'd never seen such a miscarriage of justice.]

The jury took less than a full day of deliberation to reach the not-guilty verdicts.

Orange County Dist. Atty. Tony Rackauckas told jurors the former officers had abused their authority on the July evening when they confronted Thomas.

Ramos was facing second-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter charges, and Cicinelli was charged with involuntary manslaughter and excessive use of force under the color of authority.

The incident, captured on surveillance tape, was shown repeatedly during the trial, but each side drew different conclusions as to what it showed.

Prosecutors said the video captured a real-time homicide with the officers beating a homeless man, even as he called out for help. Defense attorneys said it showed two policeman trying to restrain a violent suspect who possessed abnormal strength.

The coroner's office determined that Thomas died of brain damage from lack of oxygen caused by chest compression and other injuries sustained during his struggle with police.

Defense attorneys suggested that Thomas' death could be tied to a diseased heart damaged by previous drug use.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...#ixzz2qKSuVcj0

So before it get's too lost, you should go look at the pictures of this man after they were done with him. These cops murdered him.
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Old 01-13-2014, 07:02 PM   #16
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And no evidence before and after matters. We could streamline the justice process pretty fast with your help.
Of course it matters. But what in your mind would make this action ok?
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Old 01-13-2014, 07:24 PM   #17
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Of course it matters. But what in your mind would make this action ok?
Im not judging based on some internet video. What happened before? After? What was edited out? I have no data to judge pro or con. You seem to need less info and that is cool. Be happy in the conclusion you reached.
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Old 01-13-2014, 07:24 PM   #18
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Old 01-13-2014, 07:31 PM   #19
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Im not judging based on some internet video. What happened before? After? What was edited out? I have no data to judge pro or con. You seem to need less info and that is cool. Be happy in the conclusion you reached.
Well, its obvious that you will believe the man with a badge instead of your lying eyes.

The video Al Bundy posted is unedited. Even if it was edited, what it shows would get anybody who isn't the police in jail for the rest of our lives.
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Old 01-13-2014, 07:34 PM   #20
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Im not judging based on some internet video. What happened before? After? What was edited out? I have no data to judge pro or con. You seem to need less info and that is cool. Be happy in the conclusion you reached.
The video I posted wasn't edited.
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Old 01-13-2014, 07:36 PM   #21
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The video I posted wasn't edited.
How do you know?
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Old 01-13-2014, 07:56 PM   #22
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How do you know?
Does it look edited to you? I am asking you, what could have taken place previously between these officers and this man that makes this ok?
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Id need a bit more info than some crazy internet shit before I decided they did something wrong under the circumstances. Id bet the Jury had more insight than all the anti cop screamers will have here.

Now back to evil cops…..
you don't seem to need new info on all of the FWFWFW emails or facebook shares that you post...
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Id need a bit more info than some crazy internet shit before I decided they did something wrong under the circumstances. Id bet the Jury had more insight than all the anti cop screamers will have here.

Now back to evil cops…..
The copy paste weaselzipper king suddenly decides to view something critically but what has changed?


Oooooh, it doesn't fit his preconceived notion. My bad.
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Gosh... I don't know Matlock. Perhaps it's the fact that there's 18 minutes of continuous uninterrupted audio and video?
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