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Old 01-15-2014, 09:29 PM  
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Obama "I'll act with or without Congress"

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2014: The year of action, the power grab marches on.

Obama to Dems: I'll act with or without Congress

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama has told Senate Democrats he plans to use his executive authority to act in 2014 when Congress stands in his way.
Obama met with senators from his own party Wednesday at the White House. The White House says Obama and Democrats discussed proposals to raise the minimum wage and efforts to pass a comprehensive immigration overhaul. Education initiatives and jobs measures were also on the agenda.

The White House says Obama wants to work with Congress to make progress, but will also act on his own to get things done.

The meeting was the first such session of 2014 and comes two weeks before Obama is set to deliver his State of the Union address.

The senators left the White House without speaking to reporters. Harry Reid left smiling and even skipped to his limosine clasping his hands greedily.

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-dems-39-...-politics.html
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Old 01-17-2014, 06:36 AM   #61
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Yes he will.
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Old 01-17-2014, 07:16 AM   #62
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Not really. It's governing by a lot of lists. We just canned our old marketing director. She loved this kind of little list stuff. She used it to justify her existence, and would rattle off in meeting after meeting all these little inconsequential things that she did, only she made them sound like it was moving Everest. But the exec team saw through it, and eventually she added find a new job to her list of things that she needs to get done.

This whole thing is just Obama trying to puff himself up to look like less of a lame duck. Republicans would be better off if they laughed this stuff off instead of fighting it like he's actually accomplishing anything. They're playing into his hand making it seem like he is getting something done here.
The goal is to make Obama seem like a ruthless tyrant. As we can see by the hysterical posts it works on some people.
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Old 01-17-2014, 08:57 AM   #63
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Here's an old article from about a year ago:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickunga...the-president/

1/16/2013
Here Are The 23 Executive Orders On Gun Safety Signed Today By The President

President Obama has signed 23 executive orders designed to address the problem of gun violence in America. The following are the items addressed:

Gun Violence Reduction Executive Actions:

1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make itwidely available to law enforcement.
11. Nominate an ATF director.
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effectiveuse of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to developinnovative technologies.
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

Exactly my point he can add more at the drop of a hat look what he has so far.
Show me a person who doesn't think he will add anymore and I will show you a fool.
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Old 01-17-2014, 09:34 AM   #64
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Exactly my point he can add more at the drop of a hat look what he has so far.
Show me a person who doesn't think he will add anymore and I will show you a fool.
Add more of what? A bunch of non-impacting statements that aren't laws?
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Old 01-17-2014, 11:10 AM   #65
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It doesn't matter what he does, the huddled masses that would give him their first born to sacrifice will no doubt respond this way in kind:
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Old 01-17-2014, 11:17 AM   #66
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OH NOES....
BUY MORE GUNS!!!

I hope his next order is to ban catfood.
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Old 01-17-2014, 11:30 AM   #67
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Add more of what? A bunch of non-impacting statements that aren't laws?

And here is the fool
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Old 01-18-2014, 06:30 PM   #68
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Sptid post is stupid.

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OMG. He's out of control!
You really have no idea what you are talking about, do you?

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Ya' know what's wrong with a post like this? It doesn't reveal anything specific about those EO's since they can be used for administrative purposes. What that they can't be used for is to by pass the legislative authority or intent of Congress. Reagan, as far as I know, used them more administratively. Obama has not always used his this way. Time to impeach him.
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Old 01-18-2014, 06:33 PM   #69
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Old 01-18-2014, 06:36 PM   #70
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How would you compare it to the freakout from the left that we saw on the same topic (and the similar topic of signing statements) during the GWBush administration?

I agree with most of the rest of your post, btw.



I wouldn't go this far though. I don't know of a case in which the President has ordered an invalid/unconstitutional executive order, but I wouldn't say he hasn't with such confidence (and I doubt that you've got the knowledge of his EOs to do so either). You're probably right, but I'm open to evidence to the contrary.
What about how he reversed welfare reform by changing regulations. That bypasses the intent of congress. This one was reported on tv.
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Ya' know what's wrong with a post like this? It doesn't reveal anything specific about those EO's since they can be used for administrative purposes. What that they can't be used for is to by pass the legislative authority or intent of Congress. Reagan, as far as I know, used them more administratively. Obama has not always used his this way. Time to impeach him.

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Old 01-18-2014, 06:39 PM   #72
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What I said (and you bolded),

From the NY Times.



http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...ype=blogs&_r=0

You might argue that he hasn't commented on using executive orders, to this extent, in the past and you'd certainly have an argument there. However, he clearly has both used and vowed to use EO's to accomplish his agenda (or as much of it as he can).
As far as I'm concerned tightening the "rules" for gun ownership is an infringement. Too many rules for guns is an infringement.
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Old 01-18-2014, 06:42 PM   #74
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I think his last 12 months in power he will take America to it's knees. Why you dumbasses elected a muslim president is beyond belief.
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