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Old 01-16-2014, 12:46 AM  
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GOP mulls 32 candidates for president in 2016--so far

GOP mulls 32 candidates for president in 2016--so far

By PAUL BEDARD | JANUARY 15, 2014 AT 5:25 PM
Washington Examiner

If you thought the 13-candidate clogged 2012 Republican presidential primaries were too crowded and confusing, then you might want to skip the 2016 process -- because the Republican Party is suggesting that 32 might be interested in running.

The Republican National Committee is operating a 2016 Presidential straw poll that lists all 32, including former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz. It's all part of a fundraiser.

The poll asks users to pick their three top choices. No results are available yet. The list:

- Sen. Kelly Ayotte, of New Hampshire
- Haley Barbour, former Mississippi governor
- John Bolton, former ambassador to the United Nations
- Jeb Bush, former Florida governor - is a Bush
Herman Cain, a radio host
- Ben Carson, author and neurosurgeon
Chris Christie, New Jersey governor - status under investigation
Sen. Ted Cruz, of Texas - Meh
Mitch Daniels, former Indiana governor
- Newt Gingrich, former House speaker
- Nikki Haley, South Carolina governor
- Mike Huckabee, former Arkansas governor
- Bobby Jindal, Louisiana governor - Seriously?
John Kasich, Ohio governor
- Rep. Peter King, of New York - Seriously?
- Susana Martinez, New Mexico governor - Who?
Sarah Palin, former Alaska governor X 100000
- Sen. Rand Paul, of Kentucky
- Former Rep. Ron Paul, of Texas
Tim Pawlenty, former Minnesota governor
Mike Pence, Indiana governor
Rick Perry, Texas governor
- Sen. Rob Portman, of Ohio
- Condoleezza Rice, former secretary of state
Sen. Marco Rubio, of Florida - Meh
Rep. Paul Ryan, of Wisconsin - Meh
Brian Sandoval, Nevada governor - Who?
- Rick Santorum, former Pennsylvania senator
Sen. Tim Scott, of South Carolina - Who?
- Sen. John Thune, of South Dakota - Meh
- Scott Walker, Wisconsin governor - Meh
Former Rep. Allen West, of Florida
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Old 01-16-2014, 01:27 AM   #16
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Old 01-16-2014, 01:29 AM   #17
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Old 01-16-2014, 01:29 AM   #18
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Cosmo, just wondering. Everyone up there is an unelectable kook with no chance of winning, right?

What does a legitimate Republican candidate look like to you? Someone that the Democrats should fear in 2016?
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Old 01-16-2014, 01:35 AM   #19
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Ben Carson- Attorney General or over Health and Human Services, whichever yields the most power.
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Old 01-16-2014, 01:41 AM   #20
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What ever. In the end there are really only four to watch.

Here are my starters and backups should they not run.

The National frontrunner:
Starter: New Jersey Governor Chris Christie
Backup: Jeb Bush

Libertarian Republican/Teaparty
Starter: Sen. Rand Paul
Backup: Ted Cruz

Social Conservative
Starter: Rick Santorum
Backup: Mike Huckabee

The alternative to the frontrunner:
Starter: Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker
Backup: Bobby Jindal

If I was to place a bet on any of these guys today, I'd place my money on Walker. He's gives people a little bit of everything.
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Old 01-16-2014, 01:46 AM   #21
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You know George W. Bush. Now imagine him if his name was Jeb.

Actually, he might be a decent R candidate is he wasn't a Bush.
I just looked it up. He's a fatter version of Bush.

You know, whoever the next president is, I hope they're fat. Clinton has been the fattest president this country has had since Herbert Hoover. That's gotta change. Get a fat guy in there.
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Old 01-16-2014, 01:58 AM   #22
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Cosmo, just wondering. Everyone up there is an unelectable kook with no chance of winning, right?

What does a legitimate Republican candidate look like to you? Someone that the Democrats should fear in 2016?
I said mostly unelectable kooks. I mean at least half that list is made up of people who have absolutely zero chance of being elected local dog catcher. Newt? Bolton? Cain? Allen West? Why are they even in a discussion of long-shots?

I'm not sure that any of these should exactly be feared, but I'm also not saying that Hillary or any other D is a shoo-in either. On that list, based on my current perceptions, and being VERY open-minded, I'd say Bush, Christie, Rand Paul, Rubio, Ryan, Santorum, and Walker at least have a shot at the party nomination. I think Santorum is a joke, but at least he's well-known and had some support last time.

Some of those governors I really don't know much about. It's possible that one of them could catch fire, I guess, if they can get some name recognition going.
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Old 01-16-2014, 02:02 AM   #23
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Ben Carson- Attorney General or over Health and Human Services, whichever yields the most power.
Bolton and Ben Carson

You're the reason Mitt lost. Relatively sane Rs like him have to pretend to be right-wing nuts to appease you. But then he looks like a fool when he has to run in the general election.
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Old 01-16-2014, 02:04 AM   #24
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Cosmo I thought you could figure that out so let me explain.

You are laughing at their occupations, I'm reminding you that the current president has crap before he was elected you know that don't act dumb.
I wasn't laughing at their occupations at all. All reactions were specific to them as people and potential candidates.
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What ever. In the end there are really only four to watch.

Here are my starters and backups should they not run.

The National frontrunner:
Starter: New Jersey Governor Chris Christie
Backup: Jeb Bush

Libertarian Republican/Teaparty
Starter: Sen. Rand Paul
Backup: Ted Cruz

Social Conservative
Starter: Rick Santorum
Backup: Mike Huckabee

The alternative to the frontrunner:
Starter: Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker
Backup: Bobby Jindal

If I was to place a bet on any of these guys today, I'd place my money on Walker. He's gives people a little bit of everything.
When you put these guys under these labels, I assume you are saying, "They have no real chance."

Libertarian Republican/Teaparty
Starter: Sen. Rand Paul
Backup: Ted Cruz

Social Conservative
Starter: Rick Santorum
Backup: Mike Huckabee
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I said mostly unelectable kooks. I mean at least half that list is made up of people who have absolutely zero chance of being elected local dog catcher. Newt? Bolton? Cain? Allen West? Why are they even in a discussion of long-shots?

I'm not sure that any of these should exactly be feared, but I'm also not saying that Hillary or any other D is a shoo-in either. On that list, based on my current perceptions, and being VERY open-minded, I'd say Bush, Christie, Rand Paul, Rubio, Ryan, Santorum, and Walker at least have a shot at the party nomination. I think Santorum is a joke, but at least he's well-known and had some support last time.

Some of those governors I really don't know much about. It's possible that one of them could catch fire, I guess, if they can get some name recognition going.
Obama didn't serve the country in a gubernatorial or national representative capacity until 2004. Before he ran for president, nobody knew jack ****ing shit who the hell he was outside of hardcore Democrat political junkies and people from Illinois.

Get a sweet-talker up there and shit can happen in a hurry.
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What ever. In the end there are really only four to watch.

Here are my starters and backups should they not run.

The National frontrunner:
Starter: New Jersey Governor Chris Christie
Backup: Jeb Bush

Libertarian Republican/Teaparty
Starter: Sen. Rand Paul
Backup: Ted Cruz

Social Conservative
Starter: Rick Santorum
Backup: Mike Huckabee

The alternative to the frontrunner:
Starter: Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker
Backup: Bobby Jindal

If I was to place a bet on any of these guys today, I'd place my money on Walker. He's gives people a little bit of everything.
Scott Walker is a huge turd. I liked him initially because I figured pissing off entrenched and powerful public sector unions could only be a good thing, but the guy really does have zero clue on how to properly balance a state budget.

The state deficit is still up from the Jim Doyle years, education funding has been gashed (and not just to teacher salaries), and unemployment figures have barely been touched.

I tend to vote Republican, but I'm not voting for this dumbass. Not for governor and definitely not for president. Hell, I'd be shocked if he decided to run for president. He's not even close to being in that league.
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The bigger question to me is who are the dems going to run now that Hillary is tainted meat.

After 8 years of one party holding on to the WH it is quite normal to swing the other way, especially in this case. To me Biden is out. Kerry again?
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Obama didn't serve the country in a gubernatorial or national representative capacity until 2004. Before he ran for president, nobody knew jack ****ing shit who the hell he was outside of hardcore Democrat political junkies and people from Illinois.

Get a sweet-talker up there and shit can happen in a hurry.
I basically agree. It's comparable to Rubio or Walker. And I said one of those governors that I'm not too familiar with could catch fire. In a field with few strong candidates its easier for a relative unknown to step up and make an impact.
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Christie, Cruz, Jinal, King, Rubio, Ryan, Walker... there are some decent names there.
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