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Old 01-20-2014, 10:33 PM  
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Old 01-21-2014, 09:06 AM   #16
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I guess Chiefshrink is the flip side of the Dave Lane trolling coin.
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Old 01-21-2014, 09:52 AM   #17
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I guess Chiefshrink is the flip side of the Dave Lane trolling coin.
I don't see CS posting only religious threads--or mainly that.
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Old 01-21-2014, 09:54 AM   #18
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' shrink nobody really gives a ****,
you have keep and worship your god
and I won't care or try to share my beliefs with you
Yeah, he's really twisting your arm isn't he or running it on you daily.
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Old 01-21-2014, 10:00 AM   #19
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Look in the mirror my friend and tell me which side of the aisle 'is really' legislating morality when you say "or try to share my beliefs with you ?? I realize you are talking about yourself personally but I am talking of the bigger picture here.

You first had Roe v Wade, then the whole state of CA said NO to gay marriage but your side decided to use judicial activism and overturn the NO decision by the people of CA. It's your COEXIST term that is such an oxymoron that is totally intolerant of 'real Christianity' being lived out and it's obvious you don't recognize it let alone know about it. I'm not being sarcastic here. COEXIST is just another lefty propaganda term designed to look nice and innocent on the outside while attacking those who live their 'real Christian faith' and they use uneducated 'useful Liberal idiots' to do it. They don't care about other religions or luke warm Christian churches because they are not a threat to society or the culture. But they definitely go after 'salty Christian churches and salty Christians' because they do make a significant difference in the culture and society. Remember what your side of the aisle is trying to do right now in our culture and society. It is to rip the Judeo/Christian value system from the soul of our society. They can't do that very successfully IF real Christian Light shines in the darkness and real Christian Salt flavors our culture and society. Trust me this 'COEXIST crap' is not a genuine Rodney King plea of "Can't we all just get along".
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Old 01-21-2014, 10:07 AM   #20
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I don't see CS posting only religious threads--or mainly that.
But you do see him posting antagonistic religious threads in the same way Dave Lane posts antagonistic anti-religious threads.
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Old 01-21-2014, 10:20 AM   #21
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They don't care about other religions or luke warm Christian churches because they are not a threat to society or the culture.
Atheists only care about religions that are a threat to society. And that's bad?
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Old 01-21-2014, 11:07 AM   #22
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But you do see him posting antagonistic religious threads in the same way Dave Lane posts antagonistic anti-religious threads.
Yes. He is always insulting Father Saul Alinsky. This guy we never heard of until a few years ago is our savior and I'm offended. I couldn't pick him out of a lineup, never read anything he wrote, and couldn't tell you anything about him, but such insults are blasphemy.
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Old 01-21-2014, 11:19 AM   #23
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But you do see him posting antagonistic religious threads in the same way Dave Lane posts antagonistic anti-religious threads.
Not really. He's simply a target because he's a religious conservative--that's exactly who many atheists--particularly the lefty ones hate.
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Old 01-21-2014, 11:23 AM   #24
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Atheists only care about religions that are a threat to society. And that's bad?
It can be when they try to institutionalize their own godless religion in the name of protecting us from theist religions.
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Old 01-21-2014, 11:28 AM   #25
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Yes. He is always insulting Father Saul Alinsky. This guy we never heard of until a few years ago is our savior and I'm offended. I couldn't pick him out of a lineup, never read anything he wrote, and couldn't tell you anything about him, but such insults are blasphemy.
Saul Alinsky is a big name in the leftist pantheon for people who, I assume, were a little older than you. When Hillary became first lady, the fact that she wrote her thesis on the guy became a bit of a controversy, primarily because the White House requested that it not be released to the public.

If you read his book, Rules for Radicals now, I bet you'd recognize his ideas on community agitation in a lot of real life situations.
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Not really. He's simply a target because he's a religious conservative--that's exactly who many atheists--particularly the lefty ones hate.
He posted this thread (and the Frank Turek one from a few days ago). He's the perpetrator in this case, not the victim.
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Old 01-21-2014, 11:31 AM   #27
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If you read his book, Rules for Radicals now, I bet you'd recognize his ideas on community agitation in a lot of real life situations.
Well, he's here daily practicing it. So I think he more than recognizes it.
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It can be when they try to institutionalize their own godless religion in the name of protecting us from theist religions.
I understand that some religious people feel threatened by atheism. But that doesn't make it a religion in the slightest. That would be like saying "Some people like to golf as a hobby. Therefore, not going golfing is also a hobby equivalent to golfing." That's how silly it sounds.

Religion is defined as: the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods.

You cannot simply equate a lack of belief in a god with a belief in a god. One requires faith in something unproven and the other does not. Why would you want to anyway?
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I understand that some religious people feel threatened by atheism. But that doesn't make it a religion in the slightest. That would be like saying "Some people like to golf as a hobby. Therefore, not going golfing is also a hobby equivalent to golfing." That's how silly it sounds.

Religion is defined as: the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods.

You cannot simply equate a lack of belief in a god with a belief in a god. One requires faith in something unproven and the other does not. Why would you want to anyway?
Both are based on faith though.
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I understand that some religious people feel threatened by atheism. But that doesn't make it a religion in the slightest. That would be like saying "Some people like to golf as a hobby. Therefore, not going golfing is also a hobby equivalent to golfing." That's how silly it sounds.

Religion is defined as: the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods.

You cannot simply equate a lack of belief in a god with a belief in a god. One requires faith in something unproven and the other does not. Why would you want to anyway?
I understand your predicament. I don't like to think of my faith as a religion either.
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