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Old 01-21-2014, 10:15 AM  
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A nun in Italy went to the hospital last week after she experienced stomach pains. It turns out she was actually pregnant, delivering a 9-pound baby boy she named Francesco, after Pope Francis.

"I did not know I was pregnant. I only felt a stomach pain," Roxana Rodriguez, the 31-year-old native of El Salvador, told Italian news agency ANSA from her hospital bed in Rieti. Other new mothers at the hospital started a clothing and donation drive for the nun, who had no clue that she was pregnant. Rodriguez gave birth on Wednesday, according to Italian newspaper La Repubblica.

Rodriguez belongs to a convent in Campomoro known as Little Disciples of Jesus, which is in charge of a home for the elderly.

The unexpectedly pregnant nun, who took vows of chastity, said she would take care of the baby. Her fellow nuns at the convent said they were “very surprised” that one of their own was pregnant.

Rodriguez insisted that she was confused about being pregnant and suggested that she didn’t have sex.

“It’s not possible. I’m a nun,” she told the hospital, the New York Post reported.

Don Fabrizio Borello, a local pastor, said he took the nun at her word about not knowing she was pregnant.

"I guess she's telling the truth when she says she arrived at the hospital unaware of the pregnancy," Borello said, according to the BBC.

A spokesman for the local bishop, who apparently did not think the birth was an immaculate conception, said the nun should not continue her duties after getting pregnant.

“It would be preferable that she now lead a secular life with her baby, away from religious institutions,” he said, according to the Post.

The pregnant nun named her baby Francesco, after Pope Francis. News of the birth led hordes of journalists to descend on Rieti, a city with a population of 47,700. The city’s mayor urged the media to respect the nun’s privacy.
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Old 01-21-2014, 03:39 PM   #31
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No you just having gobs of missing information on Catholicism. So you won't understand it, let alone get my point. That and it was a response to someone being a sarcastic a-hole about a particular belief.

err...I do understand the bit about the immaculate conception, ridiculously contrived as that is.

And I don't really care to whom or what you were responding. By stating that she had committed a sin, you're assuming that she had sex, and therefore had betrayed her vows, rather than that this was, like Jesus, a virgin birth (rather than an immaculate conception).

Obviously you're right, since there's no such thing as a virgin birth, but that doesn't change the fact that your logic was circular in that you stated that she wasn't chosen by someone on high BECAUSE she had betrayed her vows.

Your logic failure is par for the course, so don't get upset with me. Be upset with your own dysfunctional brain.
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Old 01-21-2014, 03:41 PM   #32
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Can someone translate? I thought I asked a fairly reasonable question.

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My name is BEP and when I make an obvious mistake or am getting crushed in an argument, I revert to either fake-ignoring the poster or posting little smilies that suggest he/she is wrong without explanation, because I'm incapable of defeating the statement/argument.

I am also impervious to logic and reasoning.
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Old 01-21-2014, 03:45 PM   #33
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Sure:

My name is BEP and when I make an obvious mistake or am getting crushed in an argument, I revert to either fake-ignoring the poster or posting little smilies that suggest he/she is wrong without explanation, because I'm incapable of defeating the statement/argument.

I am also impervious to logic and reasoning.
Ok, that's what I thought but wanted confirmation.
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Old 01-21-2014, 03:46 PM   #34
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You said:
"I doubt [so you're saying there's a chance] this nun was chosen by someone on high particularly since she betrayed her vows. Obviously a sign she was not born free from Original Sin. LOL.

My question is--How do you know she betrayed her vows? Because she's pregnant? If the Holy Spirit impregnated her, then she didn't betray her vows, unless you know something we don't.
I wish the angel Gabriel would settle this for us~
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Old 01-21-2014, 03:52 PM   #35
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Those who believe in the virgin birth of Mary via the influence of the Holy Ghost, believe it because it was prophesied in the Bible's Old Testament. This nun was not prophesied, hence it's no stretch that she broke her vows--something Mary would not have done being free from Original Sin.

Cosmos uses no Biblical references, which would be the basis of the other nun's comments on breaking vows. So cosmos comes across mocking Catholic doctrines since he uses no Biblical references.
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Old 01-21-2014, 03:57 PM   #36
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Isn't it possible the Holy Sprit impregnated the nun? It's happened before, allegedly.
Does that make the Holy Spirit a rapist?
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Old 01-21-2014, 04:03 PM   #37
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Those who believe in the virgin birth of Mary via the influence of the Holy Ghost, believe it because it was prophesied in the Bible's Old Testament. This nun was not prophesied, hence it's no stretch that she broke her vows--something Mary would not have done being free from Original Sin.

Cosmos uses no Biblical references, which would be the basis of the other nun's comments on breaking vows. So cosmos comes across mocking Catholic doctrines since he uses no Biblical references.
I wasn't making an assertion, I was asking a question.

So does something have to prophesied? Has everything that has occurred been prophesied?

And how do you know if it was prophesied? Maybe you're just not seeing it or understanding it.
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Old 01-21-2014, 04:04 PM   #38
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Those who believe in the virgin birth of Mary via the influence of the Holy Ghost, believe it because it was prophesied in the Bible's Old Testament. This nun was not prophesied, hence it's no stretch that she broke her vows--something Mary would not have done being free from Original Sin.

Cosmos uses no Biblical references, which would be the basis of the other nun's comments on breaking vows. So cosmos comes across mocking Catholic doctrines since he uses no Biblical references.
True the same reverse engineering has not been applied to this story. We are overdue for another revelation. We might be on the verge of something special~
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Old 01-21-2014, 04:06 PM   #39
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Does that make the Holy Spirit a rapist?
Well, I wouldn't want to cast any aspersions. Maybe they wanted it. Did they say Stop?
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Well, I wouldn't want to cast any aspersions. Maybe they wanted it. Did they say Stop?
I'll bet Mary had it coming. Probably was wearing a corset.
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Well, today a virgin can be artificially inseminated to become pregnant. I doubt that's the case here though.
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Those who believe in the virgin birth of Mary via the influence of the Holy Ghost, believe it because it was prophesied in the Bible's Old Testament. This nun was not prophesied, hence it's no stretch that she broke her vows--something Mary would not have done being free from Original Sin.

Cosmos uses no Biblical references, which would be the basis of the other nun's comments on breaking vows. So cosmos comes across mocking Catholic doctrines since he uses no Biblical references.
How do you know she WASN'T prophesied? Maybe that prophecy is kept hidden in the Vatican's vaults next to the Hitler info and the Alien files?
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Well, today a virgin can be artificially inseminated to become pregnant. I doubt that's the case here though.
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You said:
"I doubt [so you're saying there's a chance] this nun was chosen by someone on high particularly since she betrayed her vows. Obviously a sign she was not born free from Original Sin. LOL.

My question is--How do you know she betrayed her vows? Because she's pregnant? If the Holy Spirit impregnated her, then she didn't betray her vows, unless you know something we don't.

How do we really know who Barack Obama's real dad is? His mom could've been gang-banged by a dozen drunken sailors at the naval base there in Hawaii for all we know. The "dad" took off and never was really involved in Barack's life.


Hey, I'm just asking.
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One has to wonder if Paul had any idea when he wrote his letters this would be the result~
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