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Old 01-24-2014, 12:39 AM  
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Rand Paul Is the 2016 Republican Frontrunner

Don't laugh. He has built-in advantages in Iowa and New Hampshire, a party moving in his direction, and formidable fundraising potential.
  • All along, the theory behind Christie's candidacy was that he could overcome his lack of conservative bona fides with a combination of personality, competence, electability, and money. Bridgegate undermines all four.
  • So if Christie is no longer the candidate to beat in the 2016 Republican race, who is? Believe it or not, it’s Rand Paul.
  • Bush used the political network his father built, he enjoyed many of the benefits of someone who had run before. It’s the same with Paul. In both Iowa and New Hampshire, he begins with an unparalleled infrastructure left over from his father Ron Paul’s 2008 and 2012 campaigns.
  • “Rand has a much broader appeal than his father,” Robinson says. Polls reflect that: A survey last December for the Des Moines Register found Paul with a lower unfavorability rating among Iowa Republicans than either Christie or Jeb Bush.
  • If Paul is, arguably, the early leader in Iowa, he may be the early frontrunner in New Hampshire as well. While Ron Paul placed third in Iowa in 2012, he placed second in New Hampshire, losing only to Mitt Romney
  • “If you whited out his name, and looked at his numbers,” Scala says of Paul, “you’d think he was a strong mainstream candidate.”
  • Paul looks like a better bet than anyone else to finish in the top two in both Iowa and New Hampshire. If he did, he’d establish himself as the leading anti-establishment candidate in the GOP field.
  • Of course, the more early success Paul enjoyed, the more fervently some GOP elites—unnerved by his anti-interventionist foreign-policy views and potential weakness in a general election—would rally around someone else. Such efforts have worked in the past.
  • Paul will never be the darling of the GOP establishment. But Republican elites may have a difficult time in forging a unified front against him.
  • If there’s one thing that could obviate all this, it’s the possibility that Paul could suffer his own candidacy-crippling scandal.
  • But even taking that possibility into account, Paul is in a stronger position than many in the media recognize. On issues from NSA surveillance to drug legalization to gay marriage, the GOP is moving in his direction. For his part, Paul is gaining acceptance within the Republican mainstream.
  • There’s no way of knowing at this point, of course. But political commentators are making a big mistake if they disregard the chance.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...runner/283258/
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Old 02-28-2014, 01:05 AM   #136
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Like we heard about Ron in each of the last two election cycles...
And which was true. The Republicans only hope of winning either of the two elections was to run an ideological campaign based on economics that appealed to libertarians and conservatives alike. They, however, wanted to run a candidate who appealed to the establishment right, and the flaky left. It didn't work out either time.

We tried it your way, and lost twice in a row. If we try it your way again, it will be three times.
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Old 02-28-2014, 01:19 AM   #137
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No he wouldn't have. Read Double Down. Jon Huntsman is an empty suit born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Daddy's little rich boy has had his life paved for him and doesn't have the engine for a presidential campaign. It was silly that he ever even tried.
Rich, Mormon, silver spoon...the time might just be right for such a candidate.
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Old 02-28-2014, 01:20 AM   #138
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I think he makes a good Senator and that's where I'd like him to stay.
Same. I personally would rather see Gary Johnson rejoin the Republican party and make a run for the presidency. That doesn't appear to be the game plan.
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Old 02-28-2014, 01:22 AM   #139
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That's great Rand, but you did speak for 13 straight hours to insinuate that Obama was preparing to launch domestic drone strikes on his political opponents.
He spoke for 13 hours because he couldn't get a straight answer on the question from the president on the matter of drone strikes on American civilians on American soil. The president has made it clear that he thinks he's got the authority to execute people. Rand's was a valid question.
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Old 02-28-2014, 01:26 AM   #140
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zero viability in a general election.

he's also into an open borders, amnesty nut from what I've read.
Grant amnesty. Abolish minimum wage. No free health care. Remove statehood from California

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Old 02-28-2014, 01:38 AM   #141
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He spoke for 13 hours because he couldn't get a straight answer on the question from the president on the matter of drone strikes on American civilians on American soil. The president has made it clear that he thinks he's got the authority to execute people. Rand's was a valid question.
It was completely idiotic. And drones were completely irrelevant since killing people certainly doesn't require a drone. Has any other president been pressed on such an issue? And what was the answer? Yes, Americans on American soil can be killed--under certain circumstances. Just like ****ing always. It was grandstanding to appeal to the dumbest of the dumb.
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Old 02-28-2014, 06:47 AM   #142
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It was completely idiotic. And drones were completely irrelevant since killing people certainly doesn't require a drone. Has any other president been pressed on such an issue? And what was the answer? Yes, Americans on American soil can be killed--under certain circumstances. Just like ****ing always. It was grandstanding to appeal to the dumbest of the dumb.
Good lord you are stupid.
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Old 02-28-2014, 08:12 AM   #143
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We tried it your way, and lost twice in a row. If we try it your way again, it will be three times.
He's too anti third point-of-view orientated based on the only two statist options to see anything outside his standard GOP views. Afterall, you're dealing with someone who needs to rely on govt numbers to know if there's any inflation. He believes those numbers more than his own eyes.
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Old 02-28-2014, 12:13 PM   #144
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My goodness... They were saying great things about Rand Paul this morning on Morning Joe. This is a first. Rand Paul might have more momentum than I had imagined.
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Old 02-28-2014, 12:33 PM   #145
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Good lord you are stupid.
Hey, brilliant response. Be sure to update us if you feel like adding an actual comment. You can ask someone to help you with any big words.
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Old 02-28-2014, 01:09 PM   #146
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I would vote for Rand Paul he'd be an awesome president, the anti-obama.
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