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Old 01-26-2014, 04:48 PM  
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White House warns Obama could go around Congress

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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama will work with Congress where he can and circumvent lawmakers where he must, his top advisers warned Sunday in previewing Tuesday's State of the Union speech.

Obama faces a politically divided Congress on Tuesday and will use his annual address to demand expanded economic opportunity. Absent legislative action, the White House is telling lawmakers that the president is ready to take unilateral action to close the gap between rich and poor Americans.

"I think the way we have to think about this year is we have a divided government," said Dan Pfeiffer, a longtime Obama adviser. "The Republican Congress is not going to rubber-stamp the president's agenda. The president is not going to sign the Republican Congress' agenda."

So the White House is eyeing compromise on some priorities, Obama advisers said. But the president is also looking at executive orders that can be enacted without Congress' approval.

"The president sees this as a year of action to work with Congress where he can and to bypass Congress where necessary," White House press secretary Jay Carney said.

The act-or-else posture bristled Republicans.

"The president has sort of hung out on the left and tried to get what he wants through the bureaucracy as opposed to moving to the political center," said Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the GOP Senate leader.

Added Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky.: "It sounds vaguely like a threat, and I think it also has a certain amount of arrogance."

With campaigns for November's election on the horizon, there's scant reason for the White House to be optimistic about Republican support for measures to revive a bipartisan immigration bill that has passed the Senate, an increased minimum wage or expanding prekindergarten programs.

Republicans looking to wrest control of the Senate and keep their majority in the House instead want to keep the focus on the struggling economy and Obama's stewardship of it. The GOP is pinning hopes that voter frustration remains high and punishes Democrats on the ballot for Obama's tenure.

"His economic policies are not working," said Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas.

The White House has been signaling to Republicans that it would not wait for Congress to act. It also is betting Obama's backers will rally behind his plans.

"When American jobs and livelihoods depend on getting something done, he will not wait for Congress," Pfeiffer wrote in an email to Obama supporters Saturday.

Following the speech, Obama will travel to Maryland, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Tennessee to promote the proposals he introduces Tuesday evening.

Pfeiffer appeared on CNN's "State of the Union" and "Fox News Sunday." Carney spoke with ABC's "This Week." McConnell was interviewed on Fox. Paul spoke with CNN and NBC's "Meet the Press." Cruz spoke to CBS' "Face the Nation."
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Old 01-26-2014, 06:11 PM   #16
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What kind of EOs could Obama declare to narrow the income gap?
Oh, Donger...you know that this kind of thread with this kind of article is started in order to rile up the right-wing dregs into a frenzy over thoughts of EOs ordering martial law and mandatory gay marriage.
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Old 01-26-2014, 06:11 PM   #17
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I think it's really interesting. Wasn't it BigChiefDave who said that basically since Obama won re-election, the GOP should just roll over and do what Obama wants? "Elections have consequences" and so on.
I don't remember who posted what along those lines, but I do remember that theme being repeated in this forum by supporters of the Democratic party.
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Old 01-26-2014, 06:16 PM   #18
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Oh, Donger...you know that this kind of thread with this kind of article is started in order to rile up the right-wing dregs into a frenzy over thoughts of EOs ordering martial law and mandatory gay marriage.
Well, there really are only a few options here as far as interpreting the POTUS' thinking process. We know what Obama said about EO's. We know what his Press Secretary said that he would bypass Congress if necessary. There is a disconnect between those two statements.
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Old 01-26-2014, 06:17 PM   #19
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Oh, Donger...you know that this kind of thread with this kind of article is started in order to rile up the right-wing dregs into a frenzy over thoughts of EOs ordering martial law and mandatory gay marriage.
No, I don't because it wasn't started for that reason. But I just can't imagine what kind of EO Obama could order to narrow the income gap.

Can you?
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Old 01-26-2014, 06:29 PM   #20
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Old 01-26-2014, 06:35 PM   #21
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Well, there really are only a few options here as far as interpreting the POTUS' thinking process. We know what Obama said about EO's. We know what his Press Secretary said that he would bypass Congress if necessary. There is a disconnect between those two statements.
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Old 01-26-2014, 06:42 PM   #22
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No, I don't because it wasn't started for that reason. But I just can't imagine what kind of EO Obama could order to narrow the income gap.

Can you?
Not really.
I assume you are focusing on this sentence:
"Absent legislative action, the White House is telling lawmakers that the president is ready to take unilateral action to close the gap between rich and poor Americans."

That's not a quote from Obama or Carney, so you might not take it so literally.
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Old 01-26-2014, 06:48 PM   #23
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Not really.
I assume you are focusing on this sentence:
"Absent legislative action, the White House is telling lawmakers that the president is ready to take unilateral action to close the gap between rich and poor Americans."

That's not a quote from Obama or Carney, so you might not take it so literally.
Yes, that's why I posted it above. Do you dispute that is the goal?
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Old 01-26-2014, 06:49 PM   #24
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My gut tells me things are digressing between the two parties and if and when the power swings the other way revenge served cold will be the mentality. The great one who would bring everyone together has done the exact opposite. This country is as divided as much as it ever has been as are the two parties. How or why is not involved in this. It is what it is~
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It feels like sabre rattling from the Dems.
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During a fundraiser for the Democratic National Committee in San Francisco, Obama was heckled by an audience member who repeatedly shouted “executive order” during the president’s remarks.[/i]
Heckled or encouraged?
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Yes, that's why I posted it above. Do you dispute that is the goal?
That statement seems a bit dramatic and unreasonable to me.
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That statement seems a bit dramatic and unreasonable to me.
So you think that Obama and company are bluffing?
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During a fundraiser for the Democratic National Committee in San Francisco, Obama was heckled by an audience member who repeatedly shouted “executive order” during the president’s remarks.
Probably someone riled up into a frenzy because he read posts like yours on a message board. These people have minds full of mush. Please be more careful what you post in the future.
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So you think that Obama and company are bluffing?
I would say that they are posturing, and pandering to those who feel disenfranchised. He's once again lathering on the redistribute the wealth rhetoric while trying to avoid saying it.
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