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Old 01-26-2014, 04:48 PM  
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White House warns Obama could go around Congress

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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama will work with Congress where he can and circumvent lawmakers where he must, his top advisers warned Sunday in previewing Tuesday's State of the Union speech.

Obama faces a politically divided Congress on Tuesday and will use his annual address to demand expanded economic opportunity. Absent legislative action, the White House is telling lawmakers that the president is ready to take unilateral action to close the gap between rich and poor Americans.

"I think the way we have to think about this year is we have a divided government," said Dan Pfeiffer, a longtime Obama adviser. "The Republican Congress is not going to rubber-stamp the president's agenda. The president is not going to sign the Republican Congress' agenda."

So the White House is eyeing compromise on some priorities, Obama advisers said. But the president is also looking at executive orders that can be enacted without Congress' approval.

"The president sees this as a year of action to work with Congress where he can and to bypass Congress where necessary," White House press secretary Jay Carney said.

The act-or-else posture bristled Republicans.

"The president has sort of hung out on the left and tried to get what he wants through the bureaucracy as opposed to moving to the political center," said Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the GOP Senate leader.

Added Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky.: "It sounds vaguely like a threat, and I think it also has a certain amount of arrogance."

With campaigns for November's election on the horizon, there's scant reason for the White House to be optimistic about Republican support for measures to revive a bipartisan immigration bill that has passed the Senate, an increased minimum wage or expanding prekindergarten programs.

Republicans looking to wrest control of the Senate and keep their majority in the House instead want to keep the focus on the struggling economy and Obama's stewardship of it. The GOP is pinning hopes that voter frustration remains high and punishes Democrats on the ballot for Obama's tenure.

"His economic policies are not working," said Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas.

The White House has been signaling to Republicans that it would not wait for Congress to act. It also is betting Obama's backers will rally behind his plans.

"When American jobs and livelihoods depend on getting something done, he will not wait for Congress," Pfeiffer wrote in an email to Obama supporters Saturday.

Following the speech, Obama will travel to Maryland, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Tennessee to promote the proposals he introduces Tuesday evening.

Pfeiffer appeared on CNN's "State of the Union" and "Fox News Sunday." Carney spoke with ABC's "This Week." McConnell was interviewed on Fox. Paul spoke with CNN and NBC's "Meet the Press." Cruz spoke to CBS' "Face the Nation."
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Old 01-27-2014, 03:35 PM   #61
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Old 01-27-2014, 03:35 PM   #62
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We have a republic. If we had a democracy then majority would always rule. That is not the case.
We have a republic which is based on representative (or indirect) democracy.
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Old 01-27-2014, 03:36 PM   #63
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No we don't Donger. It's actually a unique type of republic that is a form of mixed govt.
See above.
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Old 01-27-2014, 03:36 PM   #64
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We have a republic which is based on representative (or indirect) democracy.
Donger you didn't really get what he posted. But enough. We know you disagree but you're turning this into a major hi-jack now.
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Old 01-27-2014, 03:37 PM   #65
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Old 01-27-2014, 03:38 PM   #66
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You have an ego problem Donger. Just admit that I wasn't talking about Holder and accept my clarification as to why. Then put it to bed.
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Old 01-27-2014, 03:39 PM   #67
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We have a republic which is based on representative (or indirect) democracy.
I agree that our representative republic works to promote democracy, but our constitution prevents actual democratic rule.
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Old 01-27-2014, 03:40 PM   #68
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Donger you didn't really get what he posted. But enough. We know you disagree but you're turning this into a major hi-jack now.
I presume he was referring to direct democracy, which we obviously don't have.
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Old 01-27-2014, 03:41 PM   #69
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You have an ego problem Donger. Just admit that I wasn't talking about Holder and accept my clarification as to why. Then put it to bed.
I realize now that you weren't talking about Holder, yes.
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I presume he was referring to direct democracy, which we obviously don't have.
I think his other posts show that he wasn't referring to that since he mentioned it's still restricted by a Constitution which prevents majority rule, despite using reps instead of the people directly.
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Old 01-27-2014, 03:42 PM   #71
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I agree that our representative republic works to promote democracy, but our constitution prevents actual direct democratic rule.
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I think he should bypass Congress. His presence in the Oval Office is in itself a capital case of treason and espionage. Why stop now?
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I don't think our representative republic works to promote democracy that likes saying they're the same thing. They have different meanings but sound similar. It's simply representational but that's not democracy strictly speaking.
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Oh, for crying out loud. Didn't we just have this argument? Everyone but the nuttiest of nutjobs understands that executive orders don't mean a whole hell of a lot, do we really need to copy-paste several long posts here?
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Will he raise taxes on "the rich" by EO?
No, obviously not, that is ridiculous.

Do you know what an executive order is?
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