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Old 01-26-2014, 10:51 PM  
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Megadeth > Metallica

To start off:
I'm a HUGE Metallica fan. In fact my first 5 years of playing electric guitar was solely based on Metallica. I started off playing Bluegrass guitar with my dad, even though my soul wasn't bluegrass.

My first exposure to Metallica was hearing "Nothing Else Matters" on MTV before school waiting for my buddy to pick me up for school. I asked my brother if he had ever heard of them, and of course he had. He handed me a tape that had zero information of it. in that all the 'font' (for lack of a better word) was gone. It was a simple 'blank" tape. It was weathered, and the only thing I could determine that it was a Metallica tape was simply my brother's word. It was Master of Puppets Within 4 weeks, I had owned everything of Metallica and had thrown bluegrass by the wayside.

Long loving Metallica fan for years; devoted. Having heard Megadeth and loving a few of their songs, I was still committed to Metallica. However, years later, I've discovered that I may have been premature in my categorization of music.

Years had passed since I had really 'listened' to Megadeth. Years, as in 10+. Then, I stumbled upon a Megadeth record. While it escapes my memory at this point, the collective memory of the tunes has lead me to the belief that Megadeth is better than Metalica.

While some, to what degree I don't know, may have always held this belief, the discovery of Megadeth is a new one for me. After listening to many records, Im beginning to feel more confident in saying that Megadeth is better. Obviously, it's subjective.

Metallica's "Black" Album is equivalent to Pink Floy'd "The Wall" in terms of impact. However, Megadeth's "Symphony of Destruction", has been severely over-shadowed by the 'Black" album of Metallica. Subsequently, as it had been up to that point, Megadeth had fallen by the wayside. "Symphony of Destructions' release around the same time, was over-shadowed by the Black album.

After what was a universal success of the Black album, Megadeth seemed to finally have received the kill shot. But, if we are to look at the records and time frame comparatively, I think Megadeth got the short end of the stick.

Since then, Megadeth has sustained their status despite radio and marketing support. I've listened to several Megadeth albums/tunes from the "Black" album going forward, and I must say they are not getting the credit that is due. In some aspects, they blow Metallica out of the water. To be honest, they are quickly surpassing Metallica.

I've always been a huge fan of Megadeth since the Mechanix type songs. But since Peace Sells Who's Buying album, Megadeth has gotten the shaft. By a LONG shot.

TLDR....but oh well.

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Old 01-31-2014, 01:25 PM   #106
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Is...not was.

He had a couple golden years there where his vocals were a pleasure.
His vocals work for what they do.

Given the type of music, I don't think vocal "quality" should be much of a factor anyway...
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Old 01-31-2014, 01:42 PM   #107
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His vocals work for what they do.

Given the type of music, I don't think vocal "quality" should be much of a factor anyway...
Our thoughts on the matter just differ. I think vocal quality should be a factor in all types of music.
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Old 01-31-2014, 02:01 PM   #108
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Our thoughts on the matter just differ. I think vocal quality should be a factor in all types of music.
You must not be in death metal then.
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Old 01-31-2014, 02:33 PM   #109
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You must not be in death metal then.
In death metal, the vocals become more like an additional guitar track.

I like metal vocalists that can do a bit of singing but also do the screaming/growling thing well. Like Rob Flynn of Machine Head, Anders from In Flames, Burton Bell from Fear Factory, Jesse Leach from Killswitch, etc.
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Old 01-31-2014, 02:46 PM   #110
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Our thoughts on the matter just differ. I think vocal quality should be a factor in all types of music.
I've never thought of vocal quality as a factor for the music I like. If I did I'd probably be into Beyonce or some other auto-tuned cheesy shit.

I've played guitar and bass since I was 12, so, I've always tended to focus on the music being played.

I think the only metal vocalist's I've liked have been Pepper Keenan of C.O.C. and Phil Anselmo of Pantera, (he was an acquired taste).
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Old 01-31-2014, 02:47 PM   #111
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In death metal, the vocals become more like an additional guitar track.

I like metal vocalists that can do a bit of singing but also do the screaming/growling thing well. Like Rob Flynn of Machine Head, Anders from In Flames, Burton Bell from Fear Factory, Jesse Leach from Killswitch, etc.
Well, I think Dave Mustaine can sing when he has to. He's not "awful". He just has a distinctive style. He's certainly not atonal or something.
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Old 01-31-2014, 02:47 PM   #112
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Phil Anselmo of Pantera, (he was an acquired taste).
Can't sing a lick.

And is AWESOME.
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Old 01-31-2014, 02:50 PM   #113
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In death metal, the vocals become more like an additional guitar track.

I like metal vocalists that can do a bit of singing but also do the screaming/growling thing well. Like Rob Flynn of Machine Head, Anders from In Flames, Burton Bell from Fear Factory, Jesse Leach from Killswitch, etc.
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Old 01-31-2014, 02:52 PM   #114
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I really only pay attention to vocal quality when vocal quality is emphasized in the music. I don't listen to Motorhead and think "boy I wish he could sing better" but I absolutely do listen to Dio and think "damn, this guy is the best ever."
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Old 01-31-2014, 02:57 PM   #116
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Can't sing a lick.

And is AWESOME.
I don't know about that... He sings his balls off in Cemetery Gates.

Lotta' range there.
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I don't know about that... He sings his balls off in Cemetery Gates.
I'll give you that, the studio version does sound pretty good. A lot of these guys sounded a lot better in the studio though. That's true of a lot of the "good" singers too, btw.
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Old 01-31-2014, 03:06 PM   #118
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I'll give you that, the studio version does sound pretty good. A lot of these guys sounded a lot better in the studio though. That's true of a lot of the "good" singers too, btw.
Very true. It sounds way better with the double vocal on tape than it did when I saw them live.
The same show had White Zombie and Rob can't sing his way out of a paper bag live.
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Very true. It sounds way better with the double vocal on tape than it did when I saw them live.
The same show had White Zombie and Rob can't sing his way out of a paper bag live.
Zombie was pretty killer live, though.

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