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Old 02-06-2014, 05:36 PM  
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Ok Obamaphiles.. explain this...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...timidated.html

First off, let's assume she is telling the truth and her claims can be substantiated. Yes, I know that may not actually be the case but I haven't seen anything indicating otherwise at this point .. and I have looked for counterpoints on this.

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In nearly two decades of running our small business, my husband and I never dealt with any government agency, outside of filing our annual tax returns. We had never been audited, we had never been investigated, but all that changed upon submitting applications for the non-profit statuses of True the Vote and King Street Patriots. Since that filing in 2010, my private businesses, my nonprofit organizations, and family have been subjected to more than 15 instances of audit or inquiry by federal agencies.

In 2011, my personal and business tax returns were audited by the Internal Revenue Service, each audit going back for a number of years.
In 2012, my business was subjected to inspection by OSHA, on a select occasion when neither my husband nor I were present, and though the agency wrote that it found nothing serious or significant, it still issued fines in excess of $20,000.

In 2012 and again in 2013 the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms conducted comprehensive audits at my place business.
Beginning in 2010, the FBI contacted my nonprofit organization on six separate occasions – wanting to cull through membership manifests in conjunction with domestic terrorism cases. They eventually dropped all matters and have now redacted nearly all my files.

All of these incursions into my affairs began after filing applications for tax-exemption. There is no other remarkable event, no other reason, to explain away how for decades I went unnoticed, but now find myself on the receiving end of interagency coordination into and against all facets of my life, both public and private.

Bear in mind, distinguished ladies and gentlemen of this sub-committee, these events were occurring while the IRS was subjecting me to multiple rounds of abusive inquiries, with requests to provide every Facebook and Twitter entry I'd ever posted, questions about my political aspirations, and demands to know the names of every group I’d ever made presentations to, the content of what I'd said, and where I intended to speak for the coming year. The answers to these sorts of questions are not of interest to the typical IRS analyst, but they are of great interest to a political machine that puts its own survival above the civil liberties of any private citizen.
So how is this not a ridiculous abuse of power?
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Old 02-06-2014, 05:46 PM   #2
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Old 02-06-2014, 05:46 PM   #3
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Old 02-06-2014, 05:49 PM   #4
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Old 02-06-2014, 05:49 PM   #5
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Old 02-06-2014, 07:04 PM   #6
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Old 02-06-2014, 07:06 PM   #7
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But, we do already know . . .
A. The IRS did some very stupid, politically motivated things. They've already been taken to task for that. Throw their nosiness here onto the pile of sins.
B. Non-profits with the word 'Patriot' in their name are sometimes flagged as maybe being a little too happy to break gun laws. Whether this is justified is debatable.
C. Texas has some experience with fringe groups being a little too happy to break gun laws.
D. Her company manufactures parts for defense contractors.
E. The world is just getting more dangerous.
F. Just because she's never been investigated before doesn't make her immune to investigation.
G. OSHA is supposed to investigate companies - especially high-tech manufacturing companies. She can't possibly be stating she's never been OSHA'ed before.
H. She runs a manufacturing plant whose first three client industries listed on her company's website are oil field, aerospace, and defense. I can't imagine that she hasn't at least been looked at by some government organization before.
I. Elijah Cummings is on the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, and is specifically on the subcommittee overseeing hazardous materials.
J. She's theorizing that these attacks came because of her politics. She really doesn't know.

So, I can't explain it, but that doesn't mean there isn't an explanation (or more than one). She's totally allowed to sue, and encourage the government to investigate, though, so go for it. I don't think anyone will get censured, though.
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Old 02-06-2014, 11:50 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by AustinChief View Post
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...timidated.html

First off, let's assume she is telling the truth and her claims can be substantiated. Yes, I know that may not actually be the case but I haven't seen anything indicating otherwise at this point .. and I have looked for counterpoints on this.

So how is this not a ridiculous abuse of power?
I imagine if I started off a post like that, followed by a list of abominable behavior that took place under an R administration, I would soon be seeing the famous AC insta-rage tearing me a new one and asking how I became so retarded.

If in fact this scrutiny was not warranted no one is going to defend what happened. But--oh my! No one has ever been audited before? This person's experience proves Obama is personally ****ing with "patriot" groups? Tales of IRS and agency bullshit are brand-new and never seen prior to the Obama era, right?
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Old 02-06-2014, 11:55 PM   #9
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I imagine if I started off a post like that, followed by a list of abominable behavior that took place under an R administration, I would soon be seeing the famous AC insta-rage tearing me a new one and asking how I became so retarded. and But the implication that this is some

If in fact this scrutiny was not warranted no one is going to defend what happened. But--oh my! No one has ever been audited before? This person's experience proves Obama is personally ****ing with "patriot" groups? Tales of IRS and agency bullshit are brand-new and never seen prior to the Obama era, right?
I put the disclaimer there because I have yet to see any information that substantiates either side of this even though I did a pretty thorough search for it. I'm perfectly fine taking a "wait and see" attitude until more evidence comes to light... BUT if her claims are indeed factual (and no one has come forward with any claims to the contrary) then this is some pretty serious crap.

The real problem here is that I doubt any of this gets followed up on.
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Old 02-07-2014, 12:10 AM   #10
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I'll approach this scandal as a typical CP right winger.

Look at this haggard bitch--Her pimp is probably forcing her to say all this to drum up some business.


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"My name is Catherine Engelbrecht. I am the Chairwoman of True the Vote, a nonprofit election integrity organization; the Founder of King Street Patriots, a citizen-led liberty group"
In other words, she's a community organizer. Get a life whore! Stop creating fake non-profits. Tax-free my ass--you're just making us pay your group's taxes.

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Shortly after filing IRS forms to establish 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(4) tax-exempt organizations, an assortment of federal entities – including law enforcement agencies and a Congressman from Maryland, Elijah Cummings – came knocking at my door.
Elijah Cummings actually went to her business? What a liar.
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Old 02-07-2014, 07:45 AM   #11
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She should be thankful Obamas storm troopers haven't ransacked her house and taken her to a concentration camp.
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Old 02-08-2014, 07:45 PM   #12
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I'll approach this scandal as a typical CP right winger.

Look at this haggard bitch--Her pimp is probably forcing her to say all this to drum up some business.




In other words, she's a community organizer. Get a life whore! Stop creating fake non-profits. Tax-free my ass--you're just making us pay your group's taxes.



Elijah Cummings actually went to her business? What a liar.
That's amazing. Did you just take the Sandra Fluke script and replace a few nouns and adjectives?
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Old 02-08-2014, 07:46 PM   #13
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She should be thankful Obamas storm troopers haven't ransacked her house and taken her to a concentration camp.
That's the reasonable discourse we've come to expect around here.
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