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28 Signs That The Middle Class Is Heading Towards Extinction

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Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,

The death of the middle class in America has become so painfully obvious that now even the New York Times is doing stories about it. Millions of middle class jobs have disappeared, incomes are steadily decreasing, the rate of homeownership has declined for eight years in a row and U.S. consumers have accumulated record-setting levels of debt. Being independent is at the heart of what it means to be "middle class", and unfortunately the percentage of Americans that are able to take care of themselves without government assistance continues to decline. In fact, the percentage of Americans that are receiving government assistance is now at an all-time record high. This is not a good thing. Sadly, the number of people on food stamps has increased by nearly 50 percent while Barack Obama has been in the White House, and at this point nearly half the entire country gets money from the government each month. Anyone that tries to tell you that the middle class is going to be "okay" simply has no idea what they are talking about. The following are 28 signs that the middle class is heading toward extinction...

#1 You don't have to ask major U.S. corporations if the middle class is dying. This fact is showing up plain as day in their sales numbers. The following is from a recent New York Times article entitled "The Middle Class Is Steadily Eroding. Just Ask the Business World"...

In Manhattan, the upscale clothing retailer Barneys will replace the bankrupt discounter Loehmann’s, whose Chelsea store closes in a few weeks. Across the country, Olive Garden and Red Lobster restaurants are struggling, while fine-dining chains like Capital Grille are thriving. And at General Electric, the increase in demand for high-end dishwashers and refrigerators dwarfs sales growth of mass-market models.



As politicians and pundits in Washington continue to spar over whether economic inequality is in fact deepening, in corporate America there really is no debate at all. The post-recession reality is that the customer base for businesses that appeal to the middle class is shrinking as the top tier pulls even further away.

#2 Some of the largest retailers in the United States that once thrived by serving the middle class are now steadily dying. Sears and J.C. Penney are both on the verge of bankruptcy, and now we have learned that Radio Shack may be shutting down another 500 stores this year.

#3 Real disposable income in the United States just experienced the largest year over year drop that we have seen since 1974.

#4 Median household income in the United States has fallen for five years in a row.

#5 The rate of homeownership in the United States has fallen for eight years in a row.

#6 In 2008, 53 percent of all Americans considered themselves to be "middle class". In 2014, only 44 percent of all Americans consider themselves to be "middle class".

#7 In 2008, 25 percent of all Americans in the 18 to 29-year-old age bracket considered themselves to be "lower class". In 2014, an astounding 49 percent of them do.

#8 Incredibly, 56 percent of all Americans now have "subprime credit".

#9 Total consumer credit has risen by a whopping 22 percent over the past three years.

#10 The average credit card debt in the United States is $15,279.

#11 The average student loan debt in the United States is $32,250.

#12 The average mortgage debt in the United States is $149,925.

#13 Overall, U.S. consumers are $11,360,000,000,000 in debt.

#14 The U.S. national debt is currently sitting at $17,263,040,455,036.20, and it is being reported that is has grown by $6.666 trillion during the Obama years so far. Most of the burden of servicing that debt is going to fall on the middle class (if the middle class is able to survive that long).

#15 According to the Congressional Budget Office, interest payments on the national debt will nearly quadruple over the next ten years.

#16 Back in 1999, 64.1 percent of all Americans were covered by employment-based health insurance. Today, only 54.9 percent of all Americans are covered by employment-based health insurance.

#17 More Americans than ever find themselves forced to turn to the government for help with health care. At this point, 82.4 million Americans live in a home where at least one person is enrolled in the Medicaid program.

#18 There are 46.5 million Americans that are living in poverty, and the poverty rate in America has been at 15 percent or above for 3 consecutive years. That is the first time that has happened since 1965.

#19 While Barack Obama has been in the White House, the number of Americans on food stamps has gone from 32 million to 47 million.

#20 While Barack Obama has been in the White House, the percentage of working age Americans that are actually working has declined from 60.6 percent to 58.6 percent.

#21 While Barack Obama has been in the White House, the average duration of unemployment in the United States has risen from 19.8 weeks to 37.1 weeks.

#22 Middle-wage jobs accounted for 60 percent of the jobs lost during the last recession, but they have accounted for only 22 percent of the jobs created since then.

#23 It is hard to believe, but an astounding 53 percent of all American workers make less than $30,000 a year in wages.

#24 Approximately one out of every four part-time workers in America is living below the poverty line.

#25 According to the most recent numbers from the U.S. Census Bureau, an all-time record 49.2 percent of all Americans are receiving benefits from at least one government program each month.

#26 The U.S. government has spent an astounding 3.7 trillion dollars on welfare programs over the past five years.

#27 Only 35 percent of all Americans say that they are better off financially than they were a year ago.

#28 Only 19 percent of all Americans believe that the job market is better than it was a year ago.

As if the middle class didn't have enough to deal with, now here comes Obamacare.

As I have written about previously, Obamacare is going to mean higher taxes and much higher health insurance premiums for middle class Americans.

Not only that, but millions of hard working Americans are going to end up losing their jobs or having their hours cut back thanks to Obamacare. For example, a fry cook named Darnell Summers recently told Barack Obama directly that he and his fellow workers "were broken down to part time to avoid paying health insurance"...

And the Congressional Budget Office now says that Obamacare could result in the loss of 2.3 million full-time jobs by 2021.

Several million people will reduce their hours on the job or leave the workforce entirely because of incentives built into President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul, the Congressional Budget Office said Tuesday.



That would mean job losses equal to 2.3 million full-time jobs by 2021, in large part because people would opt to keep their income low to stay eligible for federal health care subsidies or Medicaid, the agency said. It had estimated previously that the law would lead to 800,000 fewer jobs by that year.

But even if we got rid of Obamacare tomorrow that would not solve the problems of the middle class.

The middle class has been shrinking for a very long time, and something dramatic desperately needs to be done.

The numbers that I shared above simply cannot convey the level of suffering that is going on out there on the streets of America today. That is why I also like to share personal stories when I can. Below, I have posted an excerpt from an open letter to Barack Obama that a woman with a Master's degree and 30 years of work experience recently submitted to the Huffington Post. What this formerly middle class lady is having to endure because of this horrible economy is absolutely tragic...

Dear Mr. President,
I write to you today because I have nowhere else to turn. I lost my full time job in September 2012. I have only been able to find part-time employment -- 16 hours each week at $12 per hour -- but I don't work that every week. For the month of December, my net pay was $365. My husband and I now live in an RV at a campground because of my job loss. Our monthly rent is $455 and that doesn't include utilities. We were given this 27-ft. 1983 RV when I lost my job.



This is America today. We have no running water; we use a hose to fill jugs. We have no shower but the campground does. We have a toilet but it only works when the sewer line doesn't freeze -- if it freezes, we use the campground's restrooms. At night, in my bed, when it's cold out, my blanket can freeze to the wall of the RV.



We don't have a stove or an oven, just a microwave, so regular-food cooking is out. Recently we found a small toaster oven on sale so we can bake a little now because eating only microwaved food just wasn't working for us. We don't have a refrigerator, just an icebox (a block of ice cost about $1.89). It keeps things relatively cold. If it's freezing outside, we just put things on the picnic table.

You can read the rest of her incredibly heartbreaking letter right here.

This is not the America that I remember.

What in the world is happening to us?
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Old 02-16-2014, 02:01 PM   #121
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The problem is that the American business environment is adversarial, and when it's adversarial, people pick sides and think one side is completely wrong and another side is completely right. German unions don't work that way. They work closely with companies to negotiate benefits both sides will be happy with.

And so in America, both unions and fat cat owners/BOD too often make decisions to counter each other instead of making decisions that maximize profits. So when owners/BOD negotiate terms to make employee unions, it's viewed as a sign or weakness or loss. That's why American unions don't work. Workers unions need to stop negotiating in things that cripple companies, and owners/BOD should try to avoid negotiating in things that will hurt employee morale. But until this stops being a fight where one side wins and the other side loses, you'll have unions / owners & BOD fighting to win instead of fighting for a win/win for both sides.
Rep... I couldn't agree with you more. It's too bad there isn't any more compromise, but that's where the division starts, they seem so far apart most of the time it's hard to bridge the gap.

I guess in my 50 years I've seen most of the televised stuff (prolly what none of us should judge the whole situation from) being some really angry talk from the unions to leaders of the business. Not that some of their points aren't valid (especially training and safety concerns), but all too often it boils down to pay. Certainly not irrelevant, but the hard truth is rarely put on the table, and that is, "If you don't like it, leave and start your own business." And I'll say that the UAW is the one that's usually front-and-center int eh discussion, and THAT union is perhaps the one that helped to bring down an industry over any other.

There might be other unions that are less radical than the UAW, but they evidently don't get the same coverage than those more radical unions. But both sides certainly do share in the blame, that's for sure.

I certainly love capitalism and the free market society, but even I can see issues where a stock market is the central means and the basis of it. I'm fully supportive of the "rich" business owner who grew his business and brand, but when you throw the stock market angle into the picture, people making money from businesses they know little about, it gets a little wonky. And yeah, it's the basis of my retirement, so I'm just as guilty as the next person. But I still think it's OK for the owner of "Ted's Bait and Tackle" to live in his area's 90210 after successfully turning one store into many many stores. But a metro-sexual business major who just learns how to play the market, albeit totally legal, sort of bothers me too. Just seems kinda bullshit even if they worry themselves into ulcers more often than not..

Not sure what that makes me, but I think it kinda of makes me middle of the road.
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Old 02-16-2014, 04:54 PM   #122
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Really? Boy you have a long rough road if you don't learn to take some responsibility for yourself.

I agree with 90% of Petes issues.

Old man. I like that. You think Im pro government? How ****ing ignorant are you?

****ing dumbs statement. You are usually pretty sharp.
I probably owe you something of an apology, I let a subject that really bothers me allow me to kinda blame you for everything... while I do think you side with the money side of the equation too often, it wasn't constructive or right of me to go off and blame you "old man" for it all.

All I can say is that those solid living wage jobs really are disappearing before our eyes and it'd be nice if other people would recognize it and help hold the government accountable for it... if the "middle class" however you define it, goes... we're basically left with a feudal society.

You're a proud American, I cant imagine that's the scenario you want.
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Old 02-16-2014, 05:12 PM   #123
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I probably owe you something of an apology, I let a subject that really bothers me allow me to kinda blame you for everything... while I do think you side with the money side of the equation too often, it wasn't constructive or right of me to go off and blame you "old man" for it all.

All I can say is that those solid living wage jobs really are disappearing before our eyes and it'd be nice if other people would recognize it and help hold the government accountable for it... if the "middle class" however you define it, goes... we're basically left with a feudal society.

You're a proud American, I cant imagine that's the scenario you want.
I think most people recognize it. It's the cause and the remedy that people don't agree on.
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Old 02-16-2014, 05:17 PM   #124
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I think most people recognize it. It's the cause and the remedy that people don't agree on.
Fair enough, and this another one of those subjects that's easy for me to get out of my depth on... I know common sense and what seems right, but the details are often beyond me.

There are plenty of guys here on both sides of the aisle who know a lot more than I do about the cause and effect side of things, yourself included for sure.
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Old 02-16-2014, 05:41 PM   #125
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I probably owe you something of an apology, I let a subject that really bothers me allow me to kinda blame you for everything... while I do think you side with the money side of the equation too often, it wasn't constructive or right of me to go off and blame you "old man" for it all.

All I can say is that those solid living wage jobs really are disappearing before our eyes and it'd be nice if other people would recognize it and help hold the government accountable for it... if the "middle class" however you define it, goes... we're basically left with a feudal society.

You're a proud American, I cant imagine that's the scenario you want.
fugetaboutit….you are a fisher person…we stick together...
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"Playing the market"? Go ahead and try, nobody is stopping you. Risk your money and see how it goes. If you get rich or go broke nobody will get upset.
Unless you're Goldman Sachs in which case they will demand everyone pay for their losses.
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fugetaboutit….you are a fisher person…we stick together...
I do loves me some fishing, cant wait til this weather finally breaks.

The only time I've had worse cabin fever was living in Alaska.
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I do loves me some fishing, cant wait til this weather finally breaks.

The only time I've had worse cabin fever was living in Alaska.
Tell me…I have 3 1/2 acres of trophy bass fishing under freaking ice
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Unless you're Goldman Sachs in which case they will demand everyone pay for their losses.
Or…you do what Goldman says…..and stop bitching...
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Or…you do what Goldman says…..and stop bitching...
This makes 0 sense. Wanna try that again only this time in English?
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Tell me…I have 3 1/2 acres of trophy bass fishing under freaking ice
3 1/2 acres moves from large pond into small lake territory, sounds awesome.

This crap cant last forever...
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I do loves me some fishing, cant wait til this weather finally breaks.

The only time I've had worse cabin fever was living in Alaska.
I'm itching to hit the links. I've cleaned the ol golf clubs twice already, just waiting for some warm weather.

I like to take the rug rats fishing too.
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This makes 0 sense. Wanna try that again only this time in English?
OK..GS makes a ton of money.

If they say left…go left


If they say right go right

Or bitch about GS being profitable and be a brokeass.
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3 1/2 acres moves from large pond into small lake territory, sounds awesome.

This crap cant last forever...
I hate to say it but it is pretty amazing
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